Over the last few days, I have been attempting to find a definitive link between the Bryn Estyn estate in Wrexham, and the virtually unknown ‘other’ Bryn Estyn estate, which was built at New Norfolk, Tasmania, by Lieutenant Henry Lloyd during 1840.

After a lot of digging, I have now found that link, (the details of which will appear in the book I am currently writing) and upon discovering what I needed, I happened upon an article , ‘The Life of Artist Henry Grant Lloyd (1830-1904) and his December 1857 Illawarra Watercolours’, by Dr. Joseph Davis B. A. (Hons), Dip. Ed., PhD and published on the website in April this year., according to it’s ‘about’ page: ‘is a platform for academics to share research papers. The company’s mission is to accelerate the world’s research. Academics use to share their research, monitor deep analytics around the impact of their research, and track the research of academics they follow. Over 96 million academics have signed up to, adding 23 million papers. attracts over 62 million unique visitors a month.’

Now those numbers by anyone’s reckoning, are staggering, wouldn’t you agree? and if true, would give anyone who’s work appears on the site, a massive platform on which to present their research to the wider world of academia.

So with that in mind, I was somewhat perplexed when parts of Dr Davis’ article seemed very familiar to me, in fact, I could have written them myself.

This paragraph for example, which on first reading only stood out because I had noticed that the name ‘William Middleton Massie Lloyd’ was not one I had encountered before, and for good reason, as Dr Davis appears to have made an error in his identification of ‘Richard Myddleton Massie Lloyd’ (1751-1814), who actually commissioned Joseph Turner to build the first “Bryn Estyn Hall”.

I must admit, it did have me scratching my head at first, and thought the name mix-up was a simple error, or typo, but the paragraph’s wording, and it’s familiarity was something I simply could not ignore, as it was too similar to a paragraph that I had written for my book, which has not yet been published.

The above excerpt, from my book ‘Investiture Hill’ is indeed similar in its wording, but not markedly so, but when you consider that what is going to appear in the book is a more polished version of what I originally wrote, then things will hopefully become clearer.

Reading through the rest of Dr Davis’ paper, I noticed that he had also included a number of images that were also very familiar to me, two of which are freely available on the internet, and therefore could have any number of sources, but one image Dr Davis has used – pictured below – I can state, with all confidence, has only one source.

That source is me.

I can state this because I created the image myself for inclusion in my book, in order to highlight the true location of the original Bryn Estyn Hall, and its proximity to other buildings in the parish, using an 1840 map of Beiston.

So where had Dr Davis, obtained the image?

At first, I admit I could not answer that question, but then I remembered a video I had uploaded to Youtube during July 2018, ‘The Forgotten History of the Bryn Estyn Estate – A Photographic Journey (1620-2018)’, which contained the image in question.

There is another image in that video, which left me in no doubt whatsoever, that Dr Davis has used information from my video to include in his paper, (which has appeared on, because due to an typing error on my part, was also the source of his error in using ‘William’ (Middleton Massie Lloyd), instead of Richard, which I mentioned at the start of this article.

I have no objection whatsoever to anybody quoting my research in order to add something to an article or paper or book they have published, however, when an ‘academic’ publishes part of that work to a well-respected academic website with a readership of millions each month, and does not include the source of said information, i.e: myself – then that is an entirely different matter.

There is really no excuse not to quote the source of the information that Dr Davis has used, as my name was clearly stated below the Youtube video, but on the plus side, I had not previously noticed my error, and as a consequence have now removed the video.

So in conclusion, my original typographical error, has fortuiously proved that some ‘academics’, however qualified they may appear, are not only reluctant to quote the source of some of their research, but fail to cross-reference the information they use, and ultimately publish.

8 thoughts on “THE ‘OTHER’ BRYN ESTYN

  1. These are the type of academics who go on be be the *experts* used by the media to scare us about Climate Change and the dangers of butter and sugar and white bread and soda pop. They mostly copy and paste without checking and steal other peoples research and end up getting a B.A. or M. A. on the back of it (and huge *research* grants of course) $$$$ 🙂

  2. These are the types who are employed in schools and universities teaching our children. Many of them are raging communists too

  3. Off topic.

    Remember I said that the abortion issue is not just a female issue, hence men too do get to have an opinion on it?

    So an American doctor died and They found 2000 packaged abortions at his home. Now what on earth would he want them for?

    Well, like I said, when you find out you’re going to feel conned into doing the ostrich head burying act. After the shock of the sick reality that abortion is less to do with helping woman than it is for getting their mitts on the by-product. Our dead babies.

    Another thing, funny how the high powered sexual abusers are all priests or American. Never British. There is even a circle on Twitter who believe Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris are innocent.

    I don’t believe that. I believe the Brits are better at covering their shit at home.

    Their problems come in when they offend abroad.

    I’m glued to every last detail on the Epstein case. It has the potential of revealing some cold, dark truths about the British perverts after all. I guess paedophilia is not a far step from in-breeding.

    The security services have been using child abuse as blackmail for decades .

    I even sent Neil Wallis a YouTube video of Ken Clarke admitting as much regarding a children’s home starting with a K. He says the kids were abused and the abusers blackmailed. I wasn’t the only one to see that video. Did Neil Wallis report it, even though he specifically asked me for the link?

    Of course not.

    Don’t trust the media. They’re all part of a secret handshake club.

    And don’t follow the white rabbit! He’s the fucking groomer who lead Alice into places where she was big when she was small!


    My Virginia!

    Written by a true pervert that one was!

    1. Hi TDF. Its all good with me, and thanks for taking the time out to ask. I am simply taking some time out, in order to concentrate on some other projects, and have taken a step back to watch many of the online trolls, hoaxers and assorted warring factions, consume each other. It’s cathartic, and something I cannot recommend highly enough

      1. That strikes me as sensible. As the poet W.B Yeats put it:

        “Cast a cold eye
        On life, on death
        Horsemen pass by”

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