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i was it ty mawer in the early eightys and come in contact with holden it was a breading ground for violence abuse any thing you can think of what was wrong with these kids went on evan worse there why no one spoted any thing was beyond me looking back now when i got sent to dc i felt safer there and youth custerdy evan prison was a safer place i thought my life was bad be fore but it got worse the day i arrived got smashed up by one of the older lads cause i was sobbing in bed and i wanted to go home to my dad the hiding was nothing new i was used to that cause of my step dad but that was only a taster of things to come and one of holdens special boys mad i still dont under stand it to this day why i dont no why im writeing this but you cant let the likes of holden and others distroy your life for ever i had to face up to it and deal with all that stuff in side me cause of ty mawer lifes not a bed of roses but uts better and imm getting there slowly so dont give in or give up because you are a long time dead and therers no comeing back from that
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hello to all on here my name is shaun sheehan but you know me as kevin sheehan d/of/b 1954 ..i was in ty mawt school in some time but im sures of the date’s i know it was in the 60S(( 1966 to 1970 ???)))i was there when the swimming pool was i was not in the H block i was in the block by the pool …i work on the farm 4 days a week one day in classrooms…I KNOW the head master (ralph taylor )and MR knocks MR lazarenco MR WOOD’S …I WORK IN THE KITCHEN with GUY name (( lyndon dixon yes we add some fun to ..the head master had a nick name (SPUD ).the matron we nick named her two tablets i work in the paint shop thegardens and in the kitchen i was there when swimming pool got flnished as that was behind the kitchen some times we all walked over the hills and camped out …one of the teachers used to make us run around the field ten times if we didnot donas we were told in the dining room i do not know the teachers name but he was a big guy ..i know we all had to go over to the white house once a month and we all had to strip off down to our under wear to see the doctor and the nurse
im at the age 64 coming up to 65 now
I was at Ty mar school as well 1971 I am Alan Gifford my Email AlanGifford1604@outlook.com
I have Been in hell All my life I have not moved on with ty mar school I just can’t let go of my past life of Hell I have Lost my Wife and kids i can not Let i cannot open up to anyone
thankyou i just seem to have to find some where i can write memmorys down and how the have impackted on my life some days when im feeling low and need to channel the thoughts and feelings some where i find writeing them some where helps so much more than talking on times iv been throug the councoling and it has worktd for a short time but the thing that helped me most was the cognative thinking councilor that i had and i owe so much to him and the cpn that put me back together bit by bit and gave mt control of my life not perfect but so much better than it has been
I was in Ty-Mawr approve school I carn’t remember the years I was their.But I do remember the head master it was Mr Ralph Taylor and a Mr Knocks his wife was the matron their.The Electrician was a Mr Lazarenco don’t think I spelt that right.I can remember Mr Taylor canning me without any pants on while the Deputy head held me over the chair so I could not move I was in pain for weeks after
Yer really painful especialy when he ran from the other end of the office then struck u also when caned across the tips of u r fingers bruised very quickly still nothing as being bent over that chair and no boxers on and taking six whithout trying to cry because it would lead to another after taking the punisment i went into the games room next door to the office i had to sit on the window sill with my hands holding my arse up of the sill because the pain was really bad .and brusies just lines across the arse but they classed this as exepable wot can u do when u got animals like this looking after u call this being cared for by the system it was their way or their way and thats just a little anyway i could go on more it wasnt all the staff some where sound but some inmates probally got diffrent experiences with diffrent staff or should i say heavy handed monsters that where put in control of us anyway said just a little but i feel a tiny bit better now ive offloaded a bit call u r self carers when the goverment took u on as headmasters school teachers and so on u all know u staff who done wrong yo
Yes the caning very painful across the tips of the fingers also across the arse bent over the chair with no pants on bad bruises never forget being looked after by monsters not all staff but the majoraty of u bastards u know who u are call your self carers more like bullies abusers and u paki alden nothing but a pedo
I AM WRITING THIS LETTER TO YOU THERE TO SAY I WAS IN TY MAWR SCHOOL AT AGE OF 9 YEAR OLD AND DID NOT COME OUT OF THERE UNTIL THE AGE OF 19
AS CAN SPUD TAYLOR
i was in school unit then parker unit then rowley unit also put in icu for absconding a few times for punishment the worse one was having to spend christmas in icu i think christopher darvell and another two boys made to watch scum on christmas day with paki alden and the other boys i was only 12 at the time right up paki aldans street sick bastard
richard phone michle it urgent
i remember you richard . you workad on the farm
Hiya Richard I know you and your brother Robert I too was in ty mawr 73 – 76 over the school
Hello Ritchie I remember you my name is Steven Davies dunno if you will remember me but we all went through a lot back in the day but at least that get Aldenham is dead
is he dead?
i agree richard i was there between 76-78 right bastards,mental physical cruelty.
paki alden, ralph taylor, byron llewellyn, glyn richards, chris phelan geraint grithish, frank cook, gerry stevens they played a big part of fucking my life up and this is 35 years later still live with the trauma the bastards put me through i do not have to say anymore bud
oi i must know you ?
I WAS AT TYMAWR SCHOOL FROM 1970 -1972 BARRY ALDEN WAS THE ONLY ONE I HAD
i was there from 74 till 78 . rowley jones . with dogget right bastard .
THAT MAN STILL PLAYS ON MY MIND, EVERYTIME HE GETS DRUNK HE CAME FOR ME… I MUST KNOW MANY OF YOU MEN, HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL AND DOING GOOD.
Mr Denton Martin
I remember you I am Alan Gifford
I’m glad that you have found this place – even if it was through memories of a hell hole.
u get treated better for murder in prison than u would in ty mawr i was put in there for some family probs not for stealing or robbing cars but the place has left a big scar on my life i done 4 years in that hell hole 35 years down the line taken 3 od that didnt work sufferd with PTSD had counselling seen cpn now my life is medication I don’t trust anyone anymore
That as maybe, but you are still here, which makes you pretty strong despite everything doesn’t it?
Sometimes you have to make leaps of faith, bit like J did with me. No one’s going to push you for your story or treat you like a 2nd class citizen around here, that I can promise.
Amongst this circus, there are people who are only interested in the truth & seeing that Justice be done properly & for the proper horrors that were inflicted on people by real monsters is acknowledged & the state be held accountable for what they knew was going on, but ignored.
The transference of shame back to where it belongs – NOT with survivors.
People think this has been going on for 30, 40, 50 years, not so, I know it was going on 100 years ago in the 1st childrens homes & no doubt since time began – but the shame always lies with the people who have suffered the abuse.
Time to change all that I think. 🙂
THE BURDEN OF SHAME
I was there early 80s still have nightmares about the horrible place I was in school unit I remember paki Alden and spud Taylor well bast@rds
These where people put in charge of looking after us let me tell you now u staff that have messed with a lot of peoples lives and u should not work with kids again we know who u are and u know who u are and the goverment paid u i will never forget ever the worst thing most of you live in a comunity that you haue convinced that we are in it for companstion not true you bullies and its all coming back to u so called staff or should i say monsters perveted bastards
I was there from 1974 till about 1977 and I don’t know why but I just put its name in Google. I hated the place and most of my memory s have gone, or should I say had until I read the other comments. Before Ty mawr I was 13 weeks in crick house secure unit so ty mawr didn’t seem to bad, did it help me in a way it must have
because I went on to Usk DC
For six months and that place put me right so in the long run it made me who I am today A bitter person who hates authority. But not wanting for anything
I was in ty mawr from 73-76 I first went to crick asesment centre in 72 for 6 weeks but ended up staying there for 11 months for absconding, then I was sent to ty mawr to Parker house where the housemaster was a bastard called mr Hewitt , he was a bully, then I was moved over to dorm 4 after about a year that’s when my problems of violent abuse from spud Taylor the headmaster started. I was in assembly one morning with a denim jacket on with three stripes on the sleeve as we did in them days, he lunged towards me screaming so you think you are a seargent do you trying to rip my jacket off me, then he dragged me out hitting my head against the door frame with dai Rees the deputy head following behind, no other house master or teacher said a word cos they all enjoyed the violence towards us vunrable kids , I was them dragged down the conference room for a good caning which was on my bare arse dai Rees held me down over a chair while Taylor the animal ran around the big table 6 times for a better shot, I left that place in 76 and went straight to eastwood park for 6 weeks then Portland then just kept on getting in trouble and visited loads of different institutions in England and Wales. I’m 55 now but still remember that fucking animal TAYLOR, and have been told he was doing his job. And I blame social services for not caring.
Hi David I’m Mark Carter I don’t know if you remember me but I was in same institutions as you around similar times I have lot memory loss back then but if you reiceve this please get back to me I would like to catch up and talk to you about our past bad experiences
Me to guys!
hI VAUX I Rember u Rember me ??
I was in ty mawr for 3 years in late 70’s. I left on my 16th birthday november 1978.
I was in Rheanfa remand centre near swansea for 6 weeks before going to ty mawr.
I wasn’t abused while at ty mawr, not that I remember. I was in the main section, school we called it with dorms next to the main house.
Come to think of it, Barrie Alden always watched us in the common shower block, the filthy bastard.
I was treated fairly by the teacher we called budgie as his lips looked like one.
Class was remedial and unlike most of the other lads the school couldnt teach me anything as I had more education than they could teach. As a result, just after 9am when the cook phoned over for 2 boys to work in the kitchen I was always sent.
Peeling spuds, buttering loaves of bread and mopping the bloody canteen floors after lunch.
I did extra for us starving lads too, Id steal more margarine to make the mashed spuds taste better and when Id bring the urn of hot chocolate to all the boys at morning break, it always had extra milk, chocolate unlike what I was given which had no fucking milk at all, just hot water.
Ralph taylor had it good though I tell ya. Every week his wife would phone the kitchen with a food order for her and ralph which Id have to deliver to their house in a big basket. No friggen stewed tomatoes for their brekkie like we had, they had the best bacon, sausages etc.
All came from the money alloted to feed us.
There was a bloke there Jones I think. he had an ear ring and taylor saw it when we had assembly one day, went of his head and in front of us all ordered him to get rid of it or go home.
Same bloke found some real old worn out boxing gloves one time and organised a couple of 3 round fights. I had a scrap with one lad who had been giving grief. I beat the crap out of him lol. he didnt bother me after that.
The white haired preacher came every day for assembly and bought empty pipe tobbacco tins for us to put our tobbacco in.
A couple of lads broke into the tuc shop that alden used to run.
Bastard cancelled our weekend home. Missed my sisters wedding because of that.
I know that for many boys that went to ty mawr, the experience was awful. I was sexually abused in rheanfa, not ty mawr. For every person, it’s a different story. Mine is that maybe ty mawr wasn’t the place I should have been in however, it was better than the life I was having at home with my mother and step father, beaten on a regular basis.
Our memories can be painful, distressing ones that if you allow them to, they will consume every part of your life. If you can understand enough to know that it was in the past perhaps you can move forward.
I did, I went to canada for 19 years, then Australia for 13 and just back in the Uk since March 2015 as I have a 13 yr old son that needs a decent education that Australia cant give him.
A bit like me I suppose, 13 years old 40 years ago, no one was there to help me but 40 years on, I CAN help a 13 year old that needs help.
Please, no matter your circumstance be there for your kids with an understanding heart, encourage them & be there for them.
Well said Neil
Barrie Alden got 15 years but he will be in denial until he dies.
Very sad for his victims.
done the kitchen bit like u neil and like u i have never put a hand on any of my three daughters and never will now my youngest is 18 27 and 30 and couldnt do to them wot they done to me whilst in that hell hole
i was 1 of them that broke into the tuck shop . iwas also in rhianfa.
Me and you Andrew, respect to you my friend.
I think I remember you Neil, hope you are well pal.
I was also caught breaking into the tuck shop early 80s
Was you one of the boys caned in the main gym in front of all the boys to make a example for robbing the tuck shop
Dear lads, I need your help in solving my abuse at the hands of my father Bryan pritchard at Pen-y-Wern farm in Gilwern. Im sure my father was a TyMawr abuser . If any of you boys came to stay and ‘work’ at our farm. I was his eldest girl and i saw many of you pass through our farm for a week and dissapear. I know some of you came through TyMawr. I over a year ago was investigated by social services. my one child removed; on the testament of an ss worker who is friends with my father ?!! i havent spoken to my father for years. He died a few days ago. So we can all feel grateful theres another paedo rmoved from society. please get in touch if you can help me piece together what went on at our farm. please share this message , i ask because i cannot be the way to stay silent. i read all your comments. this fucks us up and robs us of who we truly are. are we really going to stay silent ? with you all in spirit , brave brothers xxx
Hi Anni, I have your email address and will pass on any messages directly to you. For obvious reasons, many people do not want their personal details published publicaly.
Hello Anni I remember you. pre 1974 is what you are looking for
i worked on the farm bagging potatoes . around 76. 77
Andrew, I think I may have known you. I too worked on the potato harvest on some farm. I remember taking corn cobs from the next field and eating them raw. If I think about it I’d bet that either Taylor or other staff probably got kick-backs from the farm owner for the free labour they got.
I was in dorm 2 then moved to dorm 1. I can recall so much about Ty Mawr, right down to the daily routines and even describe in detail the beds in the dorms. Dorm 2 had old steel hospital beds that were quite high off the floor while dorm 1 had lower steel beds that had the headboards and footboards enclosed with thin plywood, most likely installed by the woodwork shop (Mr Woods, a good man).
Somewhere on the net another boy was mentioned that I also remember. His last name was Heffron and he was a bit challenged and had fits.
I remember getting kitted out with new civvie clothes for weekends home. pair navy spanner pants, striped cheese cloth shirt and pair imitation leather platforms. Best gear I ever had to be honest even though it was shite.
I remember xmas special meal for the local elderly. Only time the canteen was dressed up with table cloths. I was a server as I always worked in the kitchen.
I recall the night watchmen. One was ok soft spoken and easy going, the other was a miserable bloke that had heavy breathing and didnt let us stay up watching tv.
I was the only kid from Barry, maybe someone else remembers me. I actually went back the year after leaving for a night or two as I was one of only a few kids that sat GCSE english exam in ’79. Prior to that, Ty Mawr had no GCSE at all.
Come to think of it, I had no preparation for the exam whatsoever but managed a grade 2 english cse !
I am the eldest daughter of Denton Martin, he says he remembers how strict your father was and how well you and I got on. Please make contact, it would be nice to have a reunion soon.
Reading this as brought back memories of my childhood.
In 1969/70 When I was 12 went to crick house portskewett. Then to an assessment centre in Bristol then to Ty-mawr.
At that time it was a boot camp, I soon settled in, the part I originally went to Dave Rees was the princible. I remember him having a black jaguar soon after being at Ty-Mawr i went to work with a Mr Bert Davies buildings department.
I remember having an award off Sir Douglas bardda for being the most pollite pupil and having a duke of Edinburgh award also going away to north Wales to receive the DOE award. 2of us went and 2staff.
After having these awards the abuse started. I recall the weekend away in north Wales cannot recall names but can remember one of the staff buying drinks and trying It on with me I remember threatening him with a glass I was only 12/13 at the time.
On arriving back at Ty-Mawr I was given the finest hammering going always remember it (spud taylor & Reynolds deputy head I think fat chap) .
Remember telling my social worker ( Jenny) she must have approached Spud Taylor I had another hammering.
The physical abuse was now constant I started obsconding ending up in Eastwood Park.
That place well and truly made me grow up. I’m now 59 but will always have those memories with me.
Ty-Mawr at that time was run by thugs and paedophiles, they were a law amongst themselves.
The ones who have gone to prison Will never have the sentence we had as kids, only kids we where.
On spuds Taylor grave stone it says ( no more worries )
Hope your in hell and your bully paedophile friends.
Looking back why wasn’t anyone listening I told my social worker, i would very often obsconded i told people the reasons why but we where class as delinquents.
Hi all , well I was at ty mawr from 83 to 87 today I have finally got everything out of my system thanks to a visit from South Wales police and a very hard video interview .. I was assaulted sexually by bastard paki Alden twice I was also physically abused by numerous people including that pock marked c..t Doggett.. as I say I finally got it all out today and hopefully now I can make progress with forgetting everything and moving on …. anybody else there from 83 onwards in rowley that would remember me or wanna talk my name was Tim Felton and I was the tallest lad there
I was there between 63 till 66 when my best mate David burgess got raped by the headmaster and chinny wright fucking dirty bastards
hi carl I was there 63 to 66 don’t remember eny boby getting abust by staf can’t remember u but was in dorm 4 remember staf by the namr withers if that’s to spell nhis name would all way make u to pull u’r short down to surch for tobacco never touch me me but don’t know wes he a pervert b hope u doing well mike welsh boy
hi carl I was there 63 66 can’t remember u im now gowing on 69 still remember that shit hole the only one living between 3 and 4 dome was waiwrighth and think he was sond as a pond the only one I had to look out forv was withers he msde meb and oththers drop ower short troseses to look for tobacco. never toucht me me but all way looked had what we gat between the lages (meetand to veg )
Can anyone remember one of the boys called himself ‘Peako’
paul pearson from port talbot if i can remember right
PAUL PEARSON WAS THE BEST AT FOOTBALL! NOBODY GAVE HIM A CHANCE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT!
I was there early 80s peako was there I’m from port Talbot too he was in dorm 2 if I’m right he used to bother with a guy named ken remember the place well bast@rd hell hole full of bullies and perverted staff
Yes I remember peak ended up in Swansea 84
Steven Davies… Shushy? Won a Scholarship?
Hi gary think i remember you . Its george davies i was at ty mawer 1978 79
I was at ty Mawr 1968-72 I was 12 after I got there from Kingwood assesment centre I was so scared I was beat up on the first day by the older boys I was in dormatry 2 I was stabbed in my arm within the first week the staff just didn’t seem to care I was so afraid I started to wet the bed I was ridiculed in front of all the other boys by paki Alden he would stand watching me in the showering was never abused only verbally I was on edge when he was around most of the staff were ok except chinny and Randall they were nasty things got a bit better after I made some friends I still bare the scars of how I was treated 45years later but I don’t bedwet anymore we were all vunerable Yong boys and and we were let down by the system that should have protected us hey do you remember that ghost face on the garden wall black monk used to scare the crap out of me.
HI DEWI SORRY READ ALL THE PROBLEMS YOU HAD AT TY MAWR I WAS THERE AT THE
SAME TIME AS YOU I WAS LUCKY I WAS IN DORM 1 THEN 2 THEN MOVED TO 3 I WAS
GLAD WHEN I LEFT TY MAWR I WORKED ON THE FARM WITH MR SOLE PAUL
Hi, Dewi I was in ty Mawr 1967-69 don’t know if you remember me. I was in dorm 1 yes I remember that fat bastard, Randall.made me and my mate Tony Murray do gym till we dropped and then made use have a cold shower and then back for more gym.and yes I do remember the black monk used to scare the crap out of me too. I think the best staff there were mister Gates and mister knock.
hi i was in ty mawr too in i’m not sure of the date ???i was in some time form 1967 to 1970 my name is kevin . i know some of the teadchers name …the head master name was mr ralph taylor is nickname was spud i work on the farm and in the paint shop and in the kitchen and in the gardens too …the matron we nick named her two tablets lol i know we allhad to go over to the white house once amonth and we all had to strip off down to our under wear to see the doctor and the nurse
i was at tymawr school from 1970 till 1972 and worked on the farm
i think i was lucky i had no problems there paki alden was the only one with no respect for any one but himself
Well said pal, Mr Knock was the best!
I still can’t get my head around the fact that the headmaster Ralph (spud) Taylor has not been arrested for the abuse he inflicted on us young children . I got in touch with solicitors a couple of years ago and my reply was it was too long ago. So to ease my pain I’ve got to express my feelings by getting it off my chest this way, but it will never ever leave me.
If you need to get in touch at any time, David, my email is on the site.
I will gladly publish your story to the readers here, and to the wider world if you want it told.
Thank you Admin,plz could you do that.
Of course David, send what you want to publish to email@example.com
He was arrested in 2000 and ended up in court. He’s been dead a long while now.
when did he die,are u sure hes dead?
It’s not to long go and make a statement because I done 1abut my step dad moving me over 40yeats ago and the copper delt with him
Not being funny but I personally, had a great time at ty mawr from 1974-1976. sport, fishing even went shooting with Mr Digget. It helped me turn my life around, some of the house masters were a little over the top. But for fuck sake we were all naughty boys. I remember the police knocking on my door twenty plus years ago, nothing to tell them then and nothing now. Oh one thin there wAs one built , can’t remember his Christian name Vaughn From pontypool.
Hi Ray, thanks for your comment and I don’t think you are being funny as many lads had a great time in care, while some others had a really tough time. Bullies (Enforcers) were one of the biggest problems in care homes and every home/school/assessment centre had one.
Welcome to the Outlaw by the way.
I was at that shit hole my housemaster was jerry Steven’s. I got shit off the staff for being English. Byron llewelin. Ginger cunt always had it in for me.
Byron… I remember him
Hi I was there 67 70 I know what happened
hi i do not know if i know you i was at the ty mawr school look my comment on here
I was one of them Boys late night calls off John Wright and his associates
Hi I was at ty-mawr in 1960 I was there for 3 years I was never a bully but stood up for my self, My best friend chubby is nickname was from Birmingham, He absconded and went to Barry island where he went swimming and had a epileptic and died. I had my arse wacked a few times by spud Taylor It didn’t half hurt The Bastard. Taylor treated some kids abominably I was lucky I was never abused.
I had a visit from the police some years ago to question me about Ty-Mawr.
There was one teacher there called Garside He was a hateful bastard, He used to get hold of your sideburns and twist them laughing all the time Hope the bastard is in hell now.
hello all. I was placed in ty mawr back in January 1990 and placed in Rowley parker. headmaster at time was mr c phelan. anyone else remember him? . I have recently made a subject access request with the council and today received a folder back off them but they have only provided information to which they say I am entitled to and I am already suspicious and i’m left wondering what is being kept from myself.
I was there in the late 80 thay say that thay can’t find me wot can I do next
Social services will have record and courts
Well, one thing that this place certainly failed to do was teach anyone here to spell, or use grammar correctly, just a thought, but that shows very poor teaching at a fundamental level, and that no one seems to care shows an even deeper level of failure.
All the best guys, you can still go and get help with your spelling and grammar, it’s never too late to learn.
I still have night terrors form to Mawr the ICU having special visits beat the fuck out when you kept running away if it wasn’t llueylen or curry or one of the day other basterd Charente it be one of the big lads thinking they were the days and there was a few of them coming was bad enough but when **** basterd slips you one after and still being held it adds to the shit I know it’s always going to be their and it will rear its ugly head I can only do my best
What do you do when the night mares take over your life I thought when I gave evidence about the beast that would be closer for.me but it’s just a vicious circle gets worse as days go by I see them basterd in the street I hear them and that frightened little boy is back them can never pay the price for what they have done to me fucked my head up massive parts off my life and the fuckers are still in my head,
I remember being here in the late 80s early 90s Karl Rushton if anyone remembers me I was in Rowley unit it was a bit rough around the edges there but I was a naughty boy the only thing I can say about the place the staff could handle things a lot better I remember refusing to play football I sent to the office I had my head banged against the wall apart from that never really so much but I knew it was there anyone remember ozzy he had atan tattooed on his forehead which was meant to be Satan
I myself was not at Ty Mawr but a friend of mine was, his name was Norman Hobbs and I was wondering if anyone remembers him?, he would have been there in the 60s
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