EARLY DAY MOTION 38

“That this House believes that justice for the survivors of child abuse should be a priority for the Government; notes that concerns have been raised by current and former police officers and special branch officers that by coming forward with evidence related to child abuse they could be prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act 1989; and calls on the Government to introduce legislation to remove the threat of prosecution for anyone who has reasonable cause to believe that the information, document or article they disclose is relevant to an official investigation of, or inquiry into, historic child abuse.”

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JOHN MANN MP
JOHN MANN MP FOR BASSETLAW
Early Day Motion 38 27/5/2015

41 thoughts on “EARLY DAY MOTION 38

  1. WASN’T A MOTION LIKE THAT ALREADY VOTED ON RECENTLY? AND THE DECISION, BY A SIZABLE MAJORITY, WAS – “NO – KEEP IT ALL HIDDEN!”

    (TRANSLATION;”WE DON’T WANT ALL OF US OR OUR PALS GOING TO JAIL”.)

    OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT THAT I’M AN EXPERT ON PROCEDURE AT KIDDY-RAPER-CENTRAL.(A.K.A. THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT).

  2. This is the parliament TV url for the whole of John Mann’s speech, in which he mentions Esther Baker. At the bottom of that video page, there is the full embed code for it. I thought you may find it useful:

    PARLIAMENTLIVE

        1. He has nobody to blame but himself, but of course he will now accuse those he has lied about and trolled for months of ‘Abusing’ and ‘Bullying’ and conspiring against him as he normally does.

          1. Sorry to appear “Higgerant”,& I’m sure I know who you’re talking about,but,WHAT are these “2 suspensions”?.For what?.Enlighten me please.

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    1. What a singularly miserable life you must lead.

      Ordered to post hundreds of piss-weak threats online – in your laughable and doomed attempts to defend the cracked pottery of an increasingly desperate and degenerate laughing stock.

  7. OH DEAR – APPEARS ADOLF HAS BEEN SLANDERED A BIT.I WONDER WHO BY?.:-

    “Pride in one’s own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.”

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    OH DEAR.A BIT MORE TRUTH:-

    “It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests.”

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  8. Interesting co-sponsor, Peter ‘I Have An Unfortunate Surname’ Bottomley.

    It has been made plain that HE won’t hesitate to sue anyone who libels HIM again. Notoriously litigious, he has ‘history’ with Chris Fay, of all people. How very, very strange…

    I certainly wish someone would sue someone, even if the massive legal expenditure only resulted in an award of a wardrobe full of Umbro!

    [Personally I think that the vast majority of these ‘ex-coppers too bloody cowardly to speak out’ would disappear like smoke in the wind, were the OSA barriers supposedly preventing them to be lifted.]

    1. All these threats to sue, yet they never do.

      I would agree about the coppers to a point, because having sat in a office of over 100 people on occasions being threatened with the OSA if we spilled the beans to the press about Thatchers many lies to the public, I know that they do use the OSA as a stick to beat you with. More so in the Police Force I should imagine. I do think they should dispense with the OSA for anyone who does have credible evidence to support any allegations made, not doing so only makes them look like they have things to hide and I believe they do. (Maybe not about a lot of the guff spewed out by the ex Lib Dem failure and his money laundering sidekick, but it’s clear high profile paedophiles have been protected from the law).

      If anyone should be at the top of the list for legal action, those 2 rancid rats Fay & Goji should be, along with their journo back up & Gojis little grubby effeminate faced sugar daddy Lib Dem who purposely broke the law to supply his little boy friend with the ammo to further attack survivors. What else has he got to hide I wonder?

      Another thing that gives me the creeps is why would someone involved in animation aimed at kids be supporting, aiding and abetting the devoted ex wife of a paedo, a known abuser and other lying unsavoury creeps and attacking real abuse survivors? I can see only one answer to that. Another failed Lib Dem as well as it happens.

      1. Jane, I’m sure that the OSA is, as you say, used to pressure people into keeping schtum. I’m just not convinced that anyone in the current climate – with solid information about murderous child-abusers – would or could be prevented from speaking out by it.

        If a bunch of nutters can regularly demonstrate outside a school in the middle of London, foolishly believing that they are in some way helping children caught up in a Satanic ring-story spread by frauds & charlatans, I’m pretty sure that a convincing ‘whistleblower’ would be protected by the public/press were the heavyhanded-brigade to turn up on their doorstep.

        I just don’t buy the notion that fear of losing a pension or whatever is enough to seal someone’s lips.

        The present situation is allowing a load of shysters to spread canteen-gossip anonymously, as they hide behind the hem of the OSA. For that reason alone it would be good to have that threat taken away so they can put up or shut up.

        (It’s probably not as easy to ‘lift’ the OSA as we’d like to think, though… and why would it just apply to child-abuse, for example, and not ALL criminal activity? The answer’s there in its name: the act of keeping secrets… officially. And why keep a secret if there is nothing there to hide? So…)

        Also, the technology available nowadays also makes it nigh on impossible to stem the tide: video testimony, documents, any & everything uploaded & diffunded – unstoppable. And safety for the ‘blower is assured. But I doubt there is even a fraction of what some would like to believe is out there.

        Hopefully we shall see.

        Your other point? Maybe some light will be shone presently here?!?

        WEB ARCHIVE

        I’m on the edge of my seat with anticipation!

          1. Careful Bandini, commenting on that particular blog got me arrested after he edited a comment I made there.

            (which resulted in ‘No Further Action’ I must add as it was a malicious and false complaint)

            I wonder who the ‘Well Known Blogger’ may be? 🙂

            On the subject of emails, I have an email written by Gojam, where he alleges that he has ‘proof’ I am a ‘convicted Wife Beater’….

            Going on his track record, is it safe to assume that this latest ‘Bigger Than Watergate’ revelation of his will be up to his usual investigative standard? – IE: a complete crock of shite and worse than useless….

          2. Come now, Jimmy, we both know that only the most “impeccable sources” are used over there! At least, ‘impeccable’ until the point they turn out to be the exact opposite, at which point they are discarded & the whole charade starts up again, with – yep! – yet another “impeccable source”!

            The notion of posting ‘outlines’ of ‘private’ correspondence is interesting, though: I well remember a fraudulent liar on the nutters’ forum – one who was blatantly bullshitting to the throng & who had an intimate connection to the gestation of “former-minister video seizure shocker” stories (and others!), via, of course, the Needleblog, Chris Fay, Godden, the Express & Exaro.
            So shocked by their lies, and being in possession of their unwanted ‘private’ communications that told a quite different story, I suggested that rather than get into a spat the simple solution would be for PERMISSION to be given for the communications to be posted in full.

            This idea didn’t go down at all well! Despite my asking for permission to do something, and not THREATENING to do so, the clowns associated with Billy Unsmart’s circus of bullshittery ran to his aid, adamant that “NO!!!!”, they really did NOT want to see this information – what ‘truth-seeker’ would turn his nose up at the truth?!? – and that I would be committing a grave forum faux-pas which would lead to expulsion/deletion/blah blah blah.

            I wonder if the ‘two year investigation’ will touch on these topics?!? I’m finding myself unable to sleep, such is the anticipation!

          3. The bloke is a laughing stock. Can you imagine how hard it must have been to have been 1 of his poor colleagues at the council? I bet they were over the moon when he got the boot. Obnoxious arrogant little wimp with a father figure obsession & a self love unsurpassed. Makes you wonder what ‘Colin’ see’s in him.

            Talking about pop up for Savile media shop Exaro, why is it that their Director Pendry being the nephew of a Labour lovey who is a very close friend of convicted paedophile Stuart Hall and another convicted rapist, as well as ‘Ken Barlow’ who believes kids who were abused must have been bad in a former life is completely swept under the carpet and ignored by people baying for the blood of alleged Tory and Lib Dem paedophiles?

            I can see a few people heading for a big fall, only they will take a few actual real vulnerable people with them, but that doesn’t seem to matter 1 bit from what I have witnessed of late. Actual survivor orgs pimping & backing people who have been proven to have abused actual real survivors, whilst berating others who have done the same to them.

            Unbelievable & quite sickening to watch.

        1. Hopefully anyone who has had credible evidence to give has come forward already Bandini. As you say, those people should have nothing to fear in this climate, with all eyes upon the Governments handling of this mess. Having been a whistle blower myself in relation to a serious child safety issue, even knowing how horrendous the intimidation is, it would not stop me from doing it again if I had to.

          I also think that anyone proven to be making false claims, either as a witness or alleged ‘victim’ should be named and shamed and subjected to penalty under the law. It’s quite obvious that there are plenty of shameless souls who are more than happy to lie about this for a sniff of compo, as it was in the Waterhouse. Some even doing it to have their ego stroked.

          Ah yes, I saw the little fake CSA campaigner clown trotting out that ridiculous rubbish. Trouble is we have that much evidence against him being a liar and an abuser of survivors, along with his little mates with seriously dodgy pasts and connections to rapists, paedos and abusers, any fanciful crap he may come out with, will only end up slapping his slimy face.

          So bring it on, between us, we have enough evidence against that little weasel & his abuser mates, he’ll just end up doing us another favour, helping us show him up for what he is. I’m sure even the most docile of mind have managed to work out there is something seriously not right about a self appointed anti CSA campaigner/blogger, who only supports and backs known abusers, paedo linked bints and convicted crims well documented for being liars and abusers.

          I’m only amazed that the king of the dobbins can’t actually see that is kind of sticking out like a MASSIVE sore thumb to people.

          I’m surprised he hasn’t done a sly blog about you Bandini (then deleted it off his trawling for victims to knife in the back Noodlehead blog within a few minutes), like he did with Jimmy and that confession about getting it oh so wrong over his money laundering friends crock of lies. gutless little sad act that he is. 🙂

  9. You are sounding even more desperate than ever Mr Shouty Man.

    I wonder why that is?

    Something to hide perhaps?

    Because it sounds like you are really worried about something.

      1. You have got yourself a Welsh Dicktionary I see

        And you still cower behind an anonymous proxy in order to do your ineffective trolling though, which says more about you I should think.

        Your comments will go straight to the trash from now on, where you and they rightfully belong – as I have indulged your infantile behaviour a lot longer than I should have.

        How is the *cough* ‘Play’ coming along?

      1. Done in the Rocky Horror style of course, no mini skirts, make up and womens knickers and the tantrums would outdo the biggest of divas.

  10. I’ve just been trying out the latest Ubuntu Linux.It hasn’t even got a `shutdown’ icon!

    1. I am not meaning to be picky OG, but Ubuntu is not strictly Linux.

      Although they are both built on Unix, they are very different.

      What version are you running?

      I use Ver 14.4 LTS, and the ‘Shutdown Button’ is located on the right of the top task bar – when you click on the user name, a menu is accessible which gives you the logout/switch user and the shut down facility.

  11. No, I just meant McAlpine threatening to sue the public and now Bottomley. I’m sure the usual suspects are threatening to sue all over the place as usual, but with their vile unsavory backgrounds, they wouldn’t even dare. Hence the reason we are still waiting for our ‘rits’ from CR from January that were ‘on the way’ and all the other many claims that we were all being sued for the last 2 years by the devoted ex wife of a paedo and the self confessed rapist scum bags of this world, who are that dumb they confirm that their own words in media interviews were taken from police statements THEY made and such like.

    Guess what though? NO COMPO! 😀

  12. 14.04 here too.I’ll try what you say later tonight.I only installed it 2 days ago.Still trying to find my way around it.

  13. A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON RELIGION.
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