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THE HAND OF MAN

When discussing or writing about certain subjects, introducing words like ‘Weather Modification‘, ‘Chemtrails‘, ‘HAARP‘, ‘Geo-Engineering‘ and ‘Weather Wars‘, often have a tendency to still make many people roll their eyes and stare blankly at you, before they switch off altogether and/or hurriedly change the subject.

It should not, therefore, come as a surprise to learn that even after everything that has happened in the past, is happening right in front of us now, and shall no doubt continue unabated in the future – the majority of people will still steadfastly believe only what they read in the mainstream media and see on the television.

Any deviation from the herd mentality, will, more often than not, single the deviant thinker out as being a ‘nutter‘, or as simply being ‘deluded‘, or as many of you have already witnessed in the mainstream media, a full-on, bat-shit crazy, tin foil hat-wearing ‘conspiracy theorist‘.

So, with that in mind, a suggestion that the deaths of thirty five Devonians were the direct result of ‘weather modification’ experiments by scientists and the British military in the 1950’s, would be greeted with the same scepticism and disbelief as is everything that has not been widely reported by the media.

Also, a comparison being drawn between the floods that devastated the Somerset Levels in the winter of 2013/14, and the very recent events witnessed in Cumbria, would no doubt be dismissed as being yet another ‘Conspiracy’, especially by those who are actively pushing an agenda like ‘Climate Change’ for example.

And the mere suggestion that all of these events were avoidable, as they were not natural occurrences, nor were they the result of an ‘Act of God’ but the direct result of a deliberate manipulation of the weather by the hand of man – would be greeted with howls of derision by both the government of the day and the mainstream media, as well as those who subscribe to both views.

But what if evidence of these weather experiments, previously buried in classified government files – had actually been reported on by the mainstream media in August 2001, would that change anything?

Would more people believe it then?

One would hope so….

On August 15, 1952, one of the worst flash floods ever to have occurred in Britain swept through the Devon village of Lynmouth. Thirty-five people died as a torrent of 90m tons of water and thousands of tons of rock poured off saturated Exmoor and into the village destroying homes, bridges, shops and hotels.

The disaster was officially termed “The hand of God” but new evidence from previously classified government files suggests that a team of international scientists working with the RAF was experimenting with artificial rainmaking in southern Britain in the same week and could possibly be implicated.

Squadron Leader Len Otley, who was working on what was known as Operation Cumulus, has told the BBC that they jokingly referred to the rainmaking exercise as Operation Witch Doctor.

His navigator, Group Captain John Hart, remembers the success of these early experiments:

“We flew straight through the top of the cloud, poured dry ice down into the cloud. We flew down to see if any rain came out of the cloud. And it did about 30 minutes later, and we all cheered”.

The meteorological office has in the past denied there were any rainmaking experiments conducted before 1955, but a BBC Radio 4 history investigation, to be broadcast tonight, has unearthed documents recently released at the public record office showing that they were going in from 1949 to 1955.

RAF logbooks and personnel corroborate the evidence.

Until now, the Ministry of Defence has categorically denied knowledge of any cloud-seeding experiments taking place in the UK during August 1952. But documents suggest that Operation Cumulus was going on between August 4 and August 15 1952.

The scientists were based at Cranfield school of Aeronautics and worked in collaboration with the RAF and the MOD’s meteorological research flight based at Farnborough. The chemicals were provided by ICI in Billingham.

Met office reports from these dates describe flights undertaken to collect data on cumulus cloud temperature, water content, icing rate, vertical motions and turbulence, and water droplet and ice crystal formation.

There is no mention of cloud seeding.

But a 59-year-old radio broadcast unearthed by Radio 4 describes an aeronautical engineer and glider pilot, Alan Yates, working with Operation Cumulus at the time and flying over Bedfordshire, spraying quantities of salt. He was elated when the scientists told him that this had led to a heavy downpour 50 miles away over Staines, Middlesex.

“I was told that the rain had been the heaviest for several years – and all out of a sky which looked summery … There was no disguising the fact that the seedsman had said he’d make it rain, and he did. Toasts were drunk to meteorology and it was not until the BBC news bulletin [about Lynmouth] was read later on, that a stony silence fell in the company,” said Mr Yates at the time.

Operation Cumulus was put on hold indefinitely after the tragedy.

Declassified minutes from an air ministry meeting, held in the war office on November 3, 1953, show why the military were interested in increasing rain and snow by artificial means. The list of possible uses includes “bogging down enemy movement”, “incrementing the water flows in rivers and streams to hinder or stop enemy crossings”, and clearing fog from airfields.

The documents also talk of rainmaking having a potential “to explode an atomic weapon in a seeded storm system or cloud. This would produce a far wider area of radioactive contamination than in a normal atomic explosion”.

UK weather modification experiments at the time presaged current practice in the US. The idea was to target “super cool” clouds, and to increase the volume of freezing water particles. Most methods involved firing particles of salt, dry ice, or silver iodide, into clouds, either from an aeroplane or from burners on the ground. The clouds would then precipitate, pulled down below freezing point by the extra weight of dense particles, thus making it rain sooner than it might have done.

Significantly, it was claimed that silver iodide could cause a downpour up to 300 miles away.

Many countries now use the technology, which has considerably improved during the past 50 years.

But controversy still surrounds the efficacy of these early cloud-seeding experiments. In 1955 questions were asked in the Commons about the possibilities of liability and compensation claims. Documents seen by the BBC suggest that both the air ministry and the Treasury became very anxious and were aware that rainmaking could cause damage, not just to military targets and personnel, but also to civilians.

The British Geological Survey has recently examined soil sediments in the district of Lynmouth to see if any silver or iodide residues remain. The testing has been limited due to restrictions in place because if foot and mouth disease, and is inconclusive. However, silver residue has been discovered in the catchment waters of the river Lyn. The BGS will investigate further over the next 18 months.

Survivors of the Lynmouth flood called for – but never got – a full investigation into the causes of the disaster.

Rumours persist to this day of planes circulating before the inundation.

62 Comments

  1. Bandini
    Bandini December 12, 2015

    The Radio 4 documentary mentioned in The Guardian article is available for those interested:

    VIDEO

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 12, 2015

      Cheers Bandini….

  2. rainbowsophie
    rainbowsophie December 12, 2015

    Well bloomin’ heck she mutters – whilst in the process of clearing all downstairs floors…! Our critical point is high tide at 8.00pm 🙁 However I thought of those very words whilst thinking we never used to have quite this much rain in such a short period of time!

  3. OldGit
    OldGit December 13, 2015

    I remember that Lynmouth disaster very well. One thing that made it so bad was that the course of the river Lyn had been changed by man for some reason.

    Instead of flowing directly into the sea, it was re-channelled at a right angle & flowed into the sea at a different place.

    Of course the sheer volume of water simply “corrected” that & forced it back to it’s old course.

    IIRC, most of the fatalities happened to people who were living in buildings erected on landfill of the old course.

  4. OldGit
    OldGit December 13, 2015

    THIS IS A VERY GOOD READ FROM ABOUT 4 YEARS AGO. HE LAYS OUT SOME TRUTH THAT TOO MANY “USEFUL IDIOTS” IN THE WEST DON’T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

    “My name is Bosch and I’m a recovered Muslim.
    That is, if Muslims don’t kill me for leaving Islam, which it requires them to do. That’s just one of the reasons I’ve been writing and drawing against Islam and its Jihad for a number of years now. But fortunately for us, Islam hasn’t been able to make every Muslim its slave, just as Nazism wasn’t able to turn every German into a Nazi. So there is Islam and there are Muslims. Muslims who take Islam seriously are at war with us and Muslims who don’t aren’t.”:-

    (WARNING – DON’T BOTHER TOO MUCH WITH THE COMMENTS; THEY’VE BEEN INFESTED BY A PRO-MOSLEM TROLL).

    FRONT PAGE MAG

    AND IF YOU CAN’T ACCESS THAT ARTICLE,HERE IT IS AS A .pdf

    CIVILUSDEFENDUS.PDF

    GET READY FOR A SYRIAN FALSE FLAG EVENT:-

    “Why does the Qatari Ministry of Defense want to buy enormous arsenal of the air bombs,not only unfit for their aircraft, but at a price 3 times (!) higher than the market one? (normally OFAB 250-270 is sold at US$700-800 per item). The answer is horrifically simple: to make an OFAB 250-270 explode you do not need to drop it from a jet — it can be done right on the ground. Any Qatar-linked terrorist group can drive it to a highly-populated area in Syria and stage a “merciless strike by the Russian aviation”. No doubt the a number of absolutely independent forensic experts would promptly conclude that this type of bomb is widely used by the Russian AF in Syria.”:-

    VOLTAIRENET.ORG

    Russia’s Military Is Catching Up to the West by Fighting in Syria:-

    NATIONALINTEREST.ORG

  5. Candy
    Candy December 13, 2015

    Hey Jimmy another great post. Giving you a shoutout from Greenville, SC where the sky sure is not friendly any more.

    Or blue.

    They are killing our beautiful planet and poisoning us from above.

    Keep up the great work you are doing, the word is spreading far and wide.

  6. OldGit
    OldGit December 13, 2015

    FROM A SMALL CORNER OF EUROPE THAT YOU’VE PROBABLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT, IF INDEED YOU EVER KNEW ABOUT IT. IT’S OFTEN THESE “LITTLE THINGS” THAT GO GLOBAL, & NOT IN A GOOD WAY:-

    RT.COM

    NOW THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT GIVES AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW OF HOW THE N.W.O. COULD COME ABOUT. I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS THEORY BEFORE:-

    “The key to understanding the globalists’ strategy in implementing the New World Order is to understand that there are actually two NWOs: a Western-fronted decoy New World Order and a BRICS-fronted real New World Order. Once you understand how and why the globalists created them and played them against each other, all of the confusing information floating about the mainstream and alternative media will start making sense.”:-

    REDEFINING GOD

    AND ALSO READ THE LINK AT THE END OF THIS PAGE. MORE GOOD – & FRIGHTENING STUFF.

  7. OldGit
    OldGit December 13, 2015

    FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED TITLE OF THE ARTICLE OF THE CALIPH OF SARFEND;

    “You wanted to know, so here ya go. SPIV and The Daily Record”
    COMMENT;
    December 7, 2015 @ 7:09 pm

    Jimmy Jones we know you work for the police and you tried to bubble Chris’s web site. You have got the wrong person and you fucked up by sending yourself death threats. The site is now blocked from the name fuck the state despite your best efforts at being a grass.

    SO YOU START OFF BY WORKING FOR THE N.S.A – IT’S ON SPIVEYLAND SO IT MUST BE TRUE, RIGHT?

    THEN YOU GET DEMOTED TO WORK FOR M.I.6./SPECIAL BRANCH.

    AND NOW YOU’RE JUST WORKING FOR THE LOCAL FUZZ.

    OH HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN!!

    LET US NOW HAVE A “WEEPING & WAILING & A GNASHING OF THE TEETH”.

    (OH, AND I WOULD HAVE INCLUDED A “RENDING OF THE GARMENTS”, BUT I KNOW HOW SENSITIVE BANDINI IS ABOUT “THAT KIND OF TRIBAL THING”.)

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 13, 2015

      You did not mention another whopper from the completely unhinged FTS:

      “The Poutlaw site must be funded, (and I have 100% solid evidence) and run by the police, because Jimmy is too thick to run a site like that on his own”

      I have been sent screenshots of all the relevant comments from that site OG, and shall we just say that once again they are clearly trying to distract from what is actually taking place.

      I am aware of what’s going on of course, but am unable to discuss the nature of what after all, is a live police investigation – on a public platform such as this.

    • Jack Regan
      Jack Regan December 13, 2015

      only complete bullshitters like spiv needs a team of degenerate creeps like that to run a website. if he still expects ppl to believe that his site costs 3k a month to run then he is beyond fucking help. everything about that site is dodgy, the articles are getting more ridiculous if thats even possible and the site mods cannot string a sentence together between them. chrisspivey.org is the last resort for the kind of scum who have been chucked out from from everywhere else online. tis a standing joke to anyone with even half a working brain and only gets visitors because of its comedy value. it publishes nothing of value and the desperate way the mods bully and attack anyone who questions lord spivey shows how desperate they are. spiv has been a busted flush for months and it shows. PMSL

      • Michael
        Michael December 13, 2015

        I heard FTS was arrested and his devices were taken with a court warrant by Manchester police. If that is true the motley crew over there must be bricking it as all their lies & bullying & attacks on people & their plotting will be linked. Everyone connected with that lot will be put under the microscope and it’s only a matter of time before more arrests are made. I have watched the way Sonia Poulton has been the target of FTS and the old doggie and WOLFIE and others on that site and their identities will be known to plod by now so can be shown to Sonia and others that have been attacked. O dear it is no wonder they are shitting themselves over there. I wonder what else will be discovered on those computers? What a scary thought that is *shivers*

  8. Mike
    Mike December 13, 2015

    OG. Fabooka da Stait who everyone knows is Fuck the State has now done a mind numbing and overcooked blog on Spivs site where he claims that he had two crossbows, a number of knives and a machete removed from his gaff by the police. The dumb Fanny thinks that we don’t know he is writing about himself. If he has also been making death threats and saying he was going to ‘cut people into pieces‘ like he threatened to do to Jimmy in a comment on this site – he is a dangerous fantasist who needs taking off the streets as soon as possible. He also boasts he is a danger to the establishment but I think he is just a middle aged sad case who lives with his elderly mum who has loads of weapons to act hard and spends his whole life pretending he is an enemy of the establishment and harassing people online. That is the strength of it. FTS/Fabooka is a wannabe Rambo who lives in a fantasy world. I hope they throw the book at the nutter.

  9. debaura1
    debaura1 December 13, 2015

    I just noticed this on the Spiv’s site.

    fuck the state
    December 13, 2015 @ 12:00 am

    Royden James Jones of Bran, Acrefair, Wrexham.

    I would just like to thank you along with your sinister and most disgusting, self-centred narcissism for the chance to obtain a very complete picture of your past activities across the internet. It is with the help of your handlers and vociferous government supporters that I have come to realise just how dangerous, evil and manipulative you really are. Yes, it is true that many people have long suspected you of being not quite right in the head as you seek to lure many an innocent victim of child abuse into your realm of guarding the upper echelons of our society as they indulge in their sick and most unhealthy sexual desires and evil practices.

    It would seem at this time that as a protected although very lowly government asset, whose purpose is to mislead and distort the truth relating to many cases of paedophilia that you thought you were allowed to break the law in order to stifle those who are well aware of what really happens in such circles. The fact that you appear to have had the weight of several major police forces manipulating on your request comes as no surprise when they freely admit that the operation and blog known as OUTLAWJIMMY.COM is completely presented to the public on their behalf via NCA involvement. Therefore, let it be understood that this is no mere bout of wishful thinking, nor indeed is it some flight of fancy and equally wild speculation, as it has been stated on more than one occasion by police officers themselves, and as such it comes straight from the pig’s mouth, so to speak.

    Appreciate that this fact has also been more than alluded to by qualified solicitors as they have gone about their business of defending the innocent against the likes of yourself and other wholly corrupt paedophile protectors who like to class themselves as defenders of the public. Several Masonic elements are now involved in securing your area of operations as you go round and around on your most destructive path in order to cajole, infiltrate and besmirch the online CSA survivors in their quest for justice, and as such, you are nothing more than a damage limitation tool.

    As I have previously mentioned when I spoke to your very sickly friend, the most disgusting woman known as Jane Russell a.k.a. Sarah Larner, as she begged to not have you and your actions exposed to the wider community of Wrexham – you truly are now the victims of your own stupidity, just as the police are. Yes, because in stating that you work with them and are completely endorsed by them to such an extent – it now becomes very clear to anyone with any interest in uncovering any truths, that likes of yourself is the first small stepping stone in a long and bumpy road of deceit and corruption that is designed to obscure and meander any true path towards sanctuary and peace for those who have been unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end of the personal desires of those you seek to protect.

    I will be updating on a regular basis with regards to you and your most ego-driven protestations. Trust me on this matter, with the truth that I told your Jane in private – nothing will stop me hammering you into the ground for your acts of deception. No policeman, no law, and no amount of whining lies from a highly disturbed and putrid runt like yourself. I am most happy for the information that I have recently obtained, as with one fell swoop it kills you, Sonia Poulton and the KFM in an instant: you are all finished within the A.M. and I do not care what false ass-holes you post as to try and make it look like you have an audience. No liars such as yourself, nor anyone or anything you attempt to secure assistance from in order to protect you or your nonexistent reputation is going to beat me. Ever!!!!!

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 13, 2015

      WOW!

      That is some crazy-assed deluded rant. Difficult to take in all in one go, but I am sure that it will be of interest to the people who are taking a professional interest into the goings on at that site.

      Thanks for posting.

  10. geocentric101
    geocentric101 December 13, 2015

    Give these degenerate fools enough rope and they will hang themselves with it.

    “I am most happy for the information that I have recently obtained, as with one fell swoop it kills you, Sonia Poulton and the KFM in an instant: you are all finished within the A.M.”

    Anyone can claim anything, but where’s the “proof of claim”?

    I can guarantee like so much of the claims over in degenerate fantasy Spivey land – there is none.

    FTS thought he was a clever little anonymous bully online but now he is going to meet cold harsh reality.

    lol

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 13, 2015

      The poor sap thinks he actually has a significant online presence.

      Has nobody ever taken him to one side and told him that his boss and his ‘team’ of degenerate misfits, are the laughing stock of not only the Alternative Media, but also the regular media – those who are even aware of him that is.

      Embarrassing.

      The stupid is very strong in some people.

    • Prefer not to say
      Prefer not to say December 14, 2015

      He is a truly sick individual. G

      He cannot see how his behaviour damages and hurts Esther, or indeed anyone else that he attacks – which is weird since he spent weeks crying about the ‘abuse’ directed towards his page by users on twitter.

      The people he associates with are no better. The same people promoting his hate blog are a wasteful group that only serve the interests of sexual predators.

      Those that come out in public alleging to be survivors, victims, or even just witnesses of anything related to CSA are attacked by the same group of so called “survivors/campaigners”.

      This isn’t a one off.

      Time and time again, they routinely seek out and eventually humiliate survivors or witnesses of child sex abuse into silence.

      They are complicit in any future abuse that takes place, if their words and behaviour online corners any survivor into silence.

      Silencing CSA survivors allows the predators to continue abusing, freely.

      • ADMIN
        ADMIN December 14, 2015

        All of which has been noted by the people who are in the position to deal with them.

        Obviously I cannot elaborate any further on that, but it will not be allowed to continue in that manner for much longer.

        • OldGit
          OldGit December 14, 2015

          I see the Daring Lavatory has got in on the action on that site. Wonder what’s in it for him.

          • ADMIN
            ADMIN December 14, 2015

            It’s the only place where people will still indulge him OG.

            Everybody else has seen through his continual bullshit and distraction tactics …. ‘Birds of a Feather’ and all that….

        • Sophia
          Sophia December 14, 2015

          Jimmy, over on that site they still allege that you were never in care.

          Why don’t you make the ‘DISCLOSURES’ article public which contains the evidence that you were.

          • ADMIN
            ADMIN December 14, 2015

            Hi Sophia, thanks for the comment.

            To answer your question: it is beneficial to me for them to continue to spread their lies about me for a wee while longer yet.

            There is a method in my madness sometimes, trust me.

      • OldGit
        OldGit December 14, 2015

        Dear “prefer”.
        On an earlier thread “Shazzrym” asked “What is wrong with people”?.

        I pointed out that there is nothing “wrong” with people,that these wierdo types have always walked among us, but now, with the power of the internet, they are able to come out into the open (online) & show us normals just how much sheer insanity there is out there – which we’d never noticed before – but now we encounter it full force.

        The guy that used to mumble to himself on a park bench can now have a website & transmit his mumblings to the whole world.

        Got it?.

  11. OldGit
    OldGit December 14, 2015

    THIS IS ON TOPIC FOR THIS ARTICLE;

    Farewell to the man who invented ‘climate change’

    To this day, global climate policy is still shaped by the agenda of Maurice Strong, a Canadian multimillionaire;-

    “In 2005, Strong was caught having been illicitly paid $1 million from the UN’s Oil for Food programme, supposedly set up to allow Saddam Hussein to pay in oil to feed starving Iraqis. He retired to a flat in Beijing, where he had been close to China’s Communist leaders back to Mao. It was from there that he returned home to Canada to die, on November 27.”:-

    TELEGRAPH

    AND, FOR FURTHER INFO ON JUST HOW INFLUENTIAL HE REALLY WAS:-

    AFN.ORG

    AND, WITH MORE LINKS:-

    DISCOVERTHENETWORKS.ORG

    And Yemen – YEMEN!! – is now building it’s own missiles. Who’s next? Timbuctoo?

    “The Yemeni army and popular forces unveiled the third generation of their home-made Al-Sorkha missiles that has already come into action in the war with Saudi Arabia.”:-

    FARSNEWS.COM

  12. OldGit
    OldGit December 14, 2015

    Kerry: Americans Won’t Elect a President Who is Not Committed to Climate Accord:-

    (TRY COMMENTS 6 and 13 ESPECIALLY)

    FREE REPUBLIC

  13. OldGit
    OldGit December 14, 2015

    YOUR SYRIAN REFUGEES BRING A SPECIAL GIFT WITH THEM:-

    FREE REPUBLIC

  14. OldGit
    OldGit December 14, 2015

    SOME NORTH KOREAN GIRL BAND MUSIC:-

    Moranbong Band – My country is the best! [North Korea]

    YOUTUBE

  15. OldGit
    OldGit December 14, 2015

    SO THE CHINESE GIRL BAND WAS NOT TO YOUR LIKING? PITY, THEY DO A REALLY GREAT “EL CONDOR” THINGY ..

    HAVE SENT YOU AN EMAIL WITH AN ATTACHMENT – NOT URGENT.

    Russia in an invisible war:-

    “How could Russia in just 20 years, without wars or other perturbations, rise from a semi-colony to an acknowledged world leader, equal among the top ones?”

    THESAKER.IS

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 14, 2015

      Some video links play havoc with the site OG, including some YouTube uploads, so I have to be careful with what I can link to.

      Got the email thanks, interesting reading as always.

  16. Billygoat Gruff
    Billygoat Gruff December 14, 2015

    Hi Jimmy. Don’t watch much TV cept sport. But a big Beatles documentary on as I write. It’s really entertaining… ITV. The point of this post?

    Reinforces my belief in the PAUL IS DEAD theory.

    I know you will understand but some of your new readers may want to check it out.

    BTW everyone should read WEIRD SCENES INSIDE THE CANYON by David McGowan.

    Spoils all my illusions but hey I still love the music!!

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      The Laurel Canyon exposé by McGowan is an essential read for anyone who is interested in the truth behind the Hippie and Anti-War movements of the 1960’s BG. Good choice.

      • OldGit
        OldGit December 15, 2015

        You should have the entire Laurel Canyon articles among the many posts I sent you. If not, say so & I’ll send them again.

        • ADMIN
          ADMIN December 15, 2015

          I have them thanks OG.

      • OldGit
        OldGit December 15, 2015

        We have the scoop about a dramatic revelation that is expected to shake up the U.S. Presidential race within the next few weeks!

        One of the candidates who is expected to make it through to the primary election is going to have to face accusations about a very recent affair. The person with whom they were having the affair: A lobbyist!:-

        BLINDGOSSIP.COM

        Where On Earth Are NASA’s Rovers Sending Pictures From? Devon Island, Canada:-

        HUMANS ARE FREE

        AT LAST, SOMEONE IS FOCUSSING ON THESE SCUM “CRISIS ACTORS” AND TELLING IT AS IT SHOULD BE;

        High Treason: Why It’s So Important to Pursue Justice Against Crisis Actors:-

        ACTIVISTPOST.COM

  17. Billygoat Gruff
    Billygoat Gruff December 15, 2015

    Sorry all……night off work so still watching TV.

    This guy Aamer? Greatest guy I’ve ever seen? Greatest crisis actorI I’ve ever seen?

    OR

    Media led DISCLOSURE

    WhY?

    This interview would not have been allowed before now. What’s going on??

    America is fucked I think.

    Sorry for so many American people to be thrown to the lions in the incipient disclosure process

    Serves their country right

    THE END IS NIGH!!

  18. Billygoat Gruff
    Billygoat Gruff December 15, 2015

    And finally…. If OG Can get away with it hopefully so can I

    TIM PEAKE…….6 years training to go 228 miles to a Space station in our Orbit.

    Bring back Neil Armstrong and the Boys……When Men were Men and we were Idiots!!

    No training ….but We reached the Moon!!

    Eat Your Heart out Tim!!

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      One small point…. Apollo 11 did not reach the moon.

      Armstrong and Co were the ‘Right Stuff’ to keep to the script.

      • richard1
        richard1 December 15, 2015

        comments like that negate everything that appears on here. its the sort of nonsense you’d expect on Spivey. now no doubt you’ll tell me i’m a poor deluded sap.

        • ADMIN
          ADMIN December 15, 2015

          I will call you nothing of the sort Richard.

          What I would suggest, however, is that you rely less on Google and obtain a copy of a book, such as ‘Dark Moon – Apollo and the Whistleblowers’ by Mary Bennett and David S Percy.

          It’s a hefty volume, some 600+ pages, packed with scientific analysis and information, and has two chapters which specifically focus on NASA’s photographic ‘evidence’ being forensically analysed by a number of photographic and camera experts from the Kodak and Hasselblad companies.

          It is still in print and you can get it from Waterstones or WH Smith I believe, at £16.99, or decent second-hand bookshops.

          Then you could present a rather less one-sided opinion perhaps.

          • richard1
            richard1 December 15, 2015

            the APOLLO landings took place at the height of the cold war. it was possible to track the spacecraft all the way from the Earth to the moon. the Russians did this, so did we. i think the Russians might have had something to say if it didnt happen, go on youtube, type in apollo17 moon rover video. hoax believers say the whole thing took part in a studio. this video lasts 45 minutes and covers an enormous amount of ground. moon rock? what exactly is that. ? anyway i find it hard to believe there are still people around who think it was all a hoax. get real!
            at the height of the Apollo programme there were 500,000 people working on it, thats a lot of people working on something that never happened. come on be sensible.

          • ADMIN
            ADMIN December 15, 2015

            Why have NASA reclaimed the ‘gifts’ of Moon Rock they presented to various countries after one was analysed and found to be petrified wood?

            And why Richard, have you not questioned why NASA have recently claimed to have ‘mislaid’ three rooms full of ‘evidence’ and documents in relation to the Apollo Missions?

            It’s on their own website – and other places.

  19. richard1
    richard1 December 15, 2015

    if anyone here holds the same view as jimmy check this website out and no it is not a Nasa funded hoax.

    http://www.clavius.org

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      Hi Richard, how are you? Long time no hear.

      We hardly hear from you until the (hotly debated) Moon Landings get a mention here, is that your main field of interest, may I ask?

      • richard1
        richard1 December 15, 2015

        hi. not too bad thanks.no i don’t think about the moon landings that much, but i get a tad irritated when people say they never happened, its simply wrong, they did.

        • ADMIN
          ADMIN December 15, 2015

          I repeat what I have always said Richard, if anyone presents irrefutable proof of the event, I will of course change my opinion.

          Until then, I am afraid, although I cannot ‘prove’ the moon landings did not happen, I will continue to question what has been presented thus far by the NASA and their agencies – as is my right to do so.

          • richard1
            richard1 December 15, 2015

            mislaid documents? have a look at this. it contains THOUSANDS of photos, videos and audio tapes. it also contains vast amounts of technical detail about the construction and development of the Apollo mission.. far from hiding information NASA has gone to extraordinary lengths to get the information out to the public. if it was a hoax they have gone to incredible lengths to perpetrate it. it would have been easier to actually do the mission.

            NASA.GOV

          • ADMIN
            ADMIN December 15, 2015

            Same rehashed stuff from NASA that they have been pumping out since the 1960’s Richard.

            If you want to argue your case effectively, bring something new to the debate.

            Who was it that said: “Doing the same thing over and over trying to get a different result is a sure sign of insanity”

            Most of what you are referring to has already been flogged to death, so I will reiterate, show me something new, something that has not already been punted around for decades with limited success – and I will of course look closely at it before I will even consider reassessing my existing position.

            I have a proposition for you my friend.

            Put together an article outlining your arguments, keep it under 10,000 words and use whatever images and links you need – I will then publish it here unedited and credited to you.

            The readers of this site can then decide how persuasive, or weak your argument actually is.

            It must, however, be in your own words and include your own thoughts, and not something that NASA or mainstream science classes use as a template.

            Be original and stick to proveable facts and see how you get on.

            Is that fair?

  20. Billygoat Gruff
    Billygoat Gruff December 15, 2015

    Sorry Outlaw but that is my POINT. My late night attempts at sarcastic/cynicism are either becoming too subtle or too tired

    That’s one small false step for me ….one giant groan from mankind !!

  21. OldGit
    OldGit December 15, 2015

    The Russo-Iranian Military Coalition in Syria may be Deepening :-

    CRITICALTHREATS.ORG

    Military operations in preparation in and around Syria:-

    VOLTAIRE.NET

    Russia in an invisible war:-

    “How could Russia in just 20 years, without wars or other perturbations, rise from a semi-colony to an acknowledged world leader, equal among the top ones?”

    THESAKER.IS

  22. Billygoat Gruff
    Billygoat Gruff December 15, 2015

    Richard I think even Spivey would agree with Outlaw and me on this one. But if it gets a debate going…….great news! Anyone believe the 9/11 fairytale? Now that would be fun!!

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      Fun indeed. And don’t get me started on 7/7 and Woolwich.

  23. richard1
    richard1 December 15, 2015

    OK BILLY check this out, then say you still think its all a hoax. this covers ALL the Apollo missions. sorry you are on a loser here.

    NASA.COM

  24. Marty McFly
    Marty McFly December 15, 2015

    Has anyone else noticed that same week a mission to the ISS is launched, they release the new Star Wars movie, and the NASA Apollo fanatics (Shills) appear on social media, forums and websites such as this?

    Just saying

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      I don’t believe in coincidence. Never have.

  25. richard1
    richard1 December 15, 2015

    what? are you going the same way as spivey now?. please post my post as i sent it or not at all.. thanks. do you really really think they would go to such trouble? have you even bothered to look at the mountains of information on that site. anyway you believe what you want.. carry on

    • ADMIN
      ADMIN December 15, 2015

      Richard, I have been nothing but civil to you and have indulged you when others have banned you from their sites, but if you are now going to start accusing me of changing your comments – then we will have to part company and any future comments you make will be instantly trashed. Your choice.

      NOTE: I take it you are referring to the wording of the link you posted, I changed it to ‘SAME OLD NASA SHIT’ but the link goes to the same site you posted. I tidy up the links so they do not look so damn ugly and screw with the formatting of the site. The actual physical link remains unchanged. If you had accessed the link yourself you would have seen that to be the case.

    • OldGit
      OldGit December 17, 2015

      Dear Richard1; Puhlease stop being a sensitive precious snowflake. Get into your browser and research “micro aggression”. On American campuses finding micro aggression is now all the rage. So now you’re saying that JJ has “micro aggressed me”. Oh,ffs.

  26. OldGit
    OldGit December 16, 2015

    Thousands of poor Syrians tormented by years of “moderate rebel” rule, pour out to greet and cheer for the Syrian Arab Army who is parading through Homs after finally liberating it, with the help of Russian air support:-

    YOUTUBE

    “The Fed is on the brink of committing a historic blunder that may rank with the mistakes it made in 1927 and 1929. By raising into weakness, they will likely cause a recession.”.

    (O,G.’s NOTE. The Fed did NOT blunder in ’27 &’29. Their actions were deliberate. The recession was intentional. It paved the way for Roosevelt & the confiscation of privately held gold & the destruction of small banks around the country to the benefit of the “big boy” bankers.)

    THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BLOG

  27. OldGit
    OldGit December 17, 2015

    The anonymous man in Turkey managed to get a long message through.

    If you want to see the opinion of what is obviously a high intellectual in Turkey, this is a good read:-

    (O.G’s NOTE; REMOVE THE $ SIGN AND PUT THIS I.P. NUMBER IN YOUR BROWSER – NOT GOOGLE – TRY IXQUICK METASEARCH – IXQUICK.COM/ – AND YOU GET :-

    “This is the index page of Jimstone. This site uses no cookies, and no private data is collected or given out.”

    CLICK ON THAT ONE AND THEN SCROLL DOWN UNTIL YOU SEE THE ABOVE HEADING. CLICK ON THE LINK AND READ. WHOEVER IT IS NAILS THE SITUATION PERFECTLY.

    82.$221.129.208

  28. Phil Cavanagh
    Phil Cavanagh December 18, 2015

    Hey JJ. Dumbass FTS and his motley crew of Spiv arse lickers still haven’t worked out who I am yet. I think that intelligence is not high on the list of qualifications to be a Spivette moderator ROTFL. Have you seen Fabooka/FTS’s latest set of rants on Facebook? He is even trying to point out to the cops how they should do their jobs the complete Twat. You have to give him credit tho ‘cos I thought it was impossible for anyone to be as deluded as Lord Spiv and write such looooooong & fucking boooooooring tripe as the Essex Baldyman does. The Forum screenies of interest to your solicitor should be in your inbox mate – enjoy

  29. Mungo Jerry
    Mungo Jerry December 29, 2015

    Bastards!!

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