Although it has been an inordinately long time coming, for some of us at least, the latest strand of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA), have now seen for themselves, that the claims of one Christopher Fay, and the contents of the infamous Elm Guest House ‘list’ to have been
A COMPLETE AND UTTER CROCK OF SHIT of no evidential value whatsoever.
Long time readers of this site, however, will be only too aware, that the accursed list [referred to by Mary Moss as Elm Lodge and pictured above], which pretty much went viral soon after it was uploaded to the internet during 2012, being shared and heavily promoted by dozens of websites and forums and on social media, was complete claptrap.
Originally championed on the ‘TapNewsWire’ website (like the Hampstead Hoax), the list soon started appearing everywhere online, being shared like wildfire soon afterwards, to the point where it was difficult to find a website that was not publishing versions of it.
Chris Fay, on the back of this, was feted by a number of journalists, and began appearing in various mainstream publications, where he was only too willing to relate endless variations on his tales of child abuse at the hands of establishment figures, and celebrities.
There were, as I recall, very few people who were prepared to swim against the tide at that time, and when ‘An Uneasy Feeling’ was published here, on October 2013, an article which drew attention to Mr. Fay’s previous conviction, and subsequent imprisonment for money laundering – which may have had a negative effect on his credibility as witness in the future – I knew there was going to be a response.
As Mr. Fay, who within a very short time, had got his feet firmly under the table over at the now abandoned ‘Needle Blog,’ – published by the strange character ‘Gojam’, and from where his defence was mounted, via Gojam and his Operation Greenlight team – was categorically denying that the Chris Fay I was referring to, was not the same person, as both the age, and the location (Blackheath) of ‘his’ totally unconnected Chris Fay, was ‘evidence’ enough to discredit any claims to the contrary.
Other people began voicing their doubts about Fay and the list, however, which was, as it turned out, a courageous act on their part, as the attacks that were launched against this site, and me, and anyone connected to me, were rabid and venomous by that point.
Things got so poisonous, that on the 22nd of November, 2013, I was arrested by the North Wales Police, after a comment I had posted on the Needle blog, was manipulated by the site owner, or one of it’s moderators, for ‘Malicious communications.’
Was this a response to what I had highlighted about Mr. Fay’s grubby history, or did it form part of an already existing stalking campaign against my family, the perpetrator of which, had by then, formed a very close alliance with Gojam, on who’s website he regularly posted many derogatory comments about me?
That, I will never know for certain, but the connection should be noted.
Happily for me, that arrest, which ensured I was effectively silenced, (being on police bail for almost seven months) led to no further action being taken against me, as there was zero evidence to support the accusation.
As things turned out, Mr. Fay himself, did finally admit that the EGH list was fake, and as Margaret Jervis rightly pointed out on Twitter, he did so on the Needle blog, although I do not think that Gojam had got the memo at that point, as he still steadfastly defended the credibility of both Fay and the list on a number of platforms, as did many people, who incidentally, are currently defending ‘Nick’, and attacking anyone who’s opinions differ from theirs.
Since that time, enough evidence has emerged to effectively discredit Mr. Fay’s testimony and the validity of that list, so the question must be asked, why has so much time and [public] money been spent on investigating it?
Wouldn’t that time and money be better spent on assisting genuine survivors of Childhood Abuse?
If you were to ask any genuine survivor of CSA, they would tell you that Chris Fay, the damned EGH list, and Fays’s later dalliances with the likes of Bill Maloney and Exaro News, has done nothing but obstruct, discombobulate, and generate both fear and distrust among survivors, and effectively label many of them, in the eyes of the general public at least, as ‘fantasists’ and compensation-chasing time wasters.
And that is unforgivable.
I shall leave you with the following, which was posted online a few years ago, which illustrates the whole thing very well.
ELM GUEST HOUSE ETC….
“The entire Elm Guest House story was hijacked by Chris Fay & his accomplices, and very effectively so. It got the whole nation to sit up and take notice however. But it was simply, a muddying of the waters, for whatever reason….
Personally, I’d advise anyone getting involved with ‘campaigning’ politicians to use them as they use each other – ruthlessly & calculatingly. They chew each other up & spit each other out as they grapple for the next rung on the ladder.
We should do the same with them – use them for our own ends & discard them without a second thought the second they cease to be useful to us. It sounds harsh, and I wouldn’t do it in the real world with real people, but they are Politicans after all, barely even human!
The Elm Guest House thing was – from the beginning – David Hencke, Tom Watson MP and Exaro News. An experienced political journalist, an ambitious politician, and a new investigative media group trying to make names for themselves. With a few desperate bloggers being tossed initially tasty, yet deliberately misleading tidbits every now and thenÂ (C.H.E/C.G.H.E)Â to make them feel they were a part of some great, yet ever so secret media/government conspiracy.
Gojam/Needleblog and the Icke Forums are the obvious choices here.
I don’t really care if Exaro News is a left-leaning site/group, I don’t even care that Tom Watson is a Labour MP. All I can see is three reputations that are going to rest entirely on the outcome of what they themselves brought to the attention of the nation. They can look forward to a lifetime of explaining themselves if it all ends in nothing. They’ve made mistakes along the way… and I’m not sure they still aren’t doing so.
But bearing in mind that they are somewhat limited in the language they can use (being ‘professionals’, not foul-mouthed internet hot-heads like us!) they have, between them, very efficiently discredited Ben Fellows, Chris Fay & Bill Maloney among others.
When Tom Watson stated that the photograph talked about by Chris Fay (with Bill Maloney incidentally) does not, in his opinion, exist, I take that as a pretty clear message. When Exaro talked about a vulnerable witness being manipulated & having ludicrous words put in his mouth (again, by Fay & Maloney) I take that as a pretty clear message too!
But it’s a real shame that they didn’t see it earlier.
I tried explaining in a post on the David Icke Forum what I thought might have happened, and how a floundering investigation maybe had no choice but to accept the ‘help’ of legions of online bullshitters who may have had useful information, but purposely mixed it up with utter garbage to confound anyone searching for the truth….
(inadvertently, possibly… although I personally doubt this).
I doubt very much we’ll ever really learn what really went on.
I would dearly love to see some prosecutions come out of this for attempting to pervert the course of justice (if what I suspect is correct), but when the ‘perverting’ is being done for the benefit of the Establishment, that looks like a real long-shot.
Turkeys voting for Christmas, and all that…
Meanwhile, I also note that neither Edwina Curry nor Norman Tebbit (for example) have been called to account for their actions.
The internet nutters would have probably had more success focusing their attention and combined amateur investigating skills on something like that: eminently provable, tangible & totally unforgivable behaviour by people who – at the very least – deserve to be unmasked for the whole world to see.
But it appears that they would prefer to continually post shite like child-pornography being smuggled into/out of Turkey inside pork-products (’cause it’s a Muslim-country & the customs inspectors wouldn’t want to touch it!)…
Yet another masterpiece from the brain of Sweetcheeks (who is closely linked to Tajasfire, Discovery77 & others who slither around the Icke Forum, all the way down the line to where Chris Fay & his cohorts await).
It’s becoming increasingly harder to believe that any of these ‘people’ have a genuine interest in seeing justice being done…
After all, what other reason would they have to spend so much time online if the truth came out ?
P.S. I Forgot to mention that Sabine McNeill woman… I’m not even going there!
I remember watching some sort of video of a mad PowerPoint presentation that she gave inside (I think) the Houses of Parliament.
Maybe she is a total genius & is functioning on a higher-level than myself, or indeed anyone else, but it just looked like meaningless rubbish!
My bullshit-alert was activated however… But that’s another story entirely.”