HELLO MOON….

The most universally recognised object in the night sky, wherever you may happen to be on earth at any given time, is without a doubt – The Moon.

It can be safely assumed that this heavenly body has been visible for millions of years longer than humankind have inhabited the planet, and has featured throughout all of human history, being represented in many and varied ways.

So how much do we really know about la lune, and how it came into being?

Not an awful lot if the truth is told, and as late as 1964, scientists still had very little understanding of it, and even today, with more than half a century of fairly intensive space research under it’s belt, science still cannot offer an entirely satisfactory theory to explain it’s existence.

At least that is the official story.

What is known for certain though, is that prior to 1969, there were three distinct theories that were what most scientific bodies had subscribed to at one time or another

Firstly, the ‘Binary Planet Theory’, which stated that the Moon was formed at the same time as the earth and that it consisted of flying space debris, which formed the solid mass we see today.

Since the analysis of actual measurements from the moon became possible, this theory became less popular, as for it to be viable, the earth and the moon would need to possess the same density – which they do not.

Secondly, the ‘Fission Theory’, which was first proposed by the mathematician George Darwin in 1879, stated that during it’s formation, the Earth was spinning so quickly, that part of the equator ‘broke off’, settled into a regular orbit and became the Moon as we know it today.

However, this theory has also been shown to be improbable, mainly due to the analysis of returned rock and soil samples, purporting to have come from the moon, which suggest that they are considerably older and of an entirely different composition altogether to those found anywhere on earth.

The samples tested, contained around 50% more iron and around 50% more refractory elements that what the earth’s mantle is composed of.

Thirdly, the ‘Capture Theory’ stated that the moon was formed somewhere else in our solar system and somehow became ‘drawn into the earth’s gravitational field,’ where it became the object which exists today.

This third theory, had probably gained the most support among scientists, despite the fact that any large object (like the moon) captured this way, would have needed to be uniquely placed for this to happen.

Again, the chances of that happening are, even at a conservative estimate – incalculable.

These theories, among many others, were being tossed around long before manned space flight even got off the technical drawing boards, and it was only a matter of time before a ‘definitive’ answer was going to be revealed, which predictably, was going to based around the much heralded, and obscenely expensive, ‘Apollo’ series of missions to the Lunar surface.

So it was NASA, who, in their second ‘Giant Leap For Mankind’ who announced, that ‘No proof existed’ to support any of the earlier scientific theories, as they now had a theory of their own.

NASA’s own ‘Giant Impact Theory’ (GIT), had by the 1990’s, won over much of the scientific world, possibly by pressure from their peers, or even bamboozled into reluctant acceptance by the unrelenting media attention, and carefully-managed promotion of the ‘official’ version of how the moon came to be.

NASA’s Theory, very conveniently solves the momentum problem which invalidated the Fission Theory, as the GIT Theory States that ‘A body with 0.1 the mass of earth, but the size of Mars (approx 2,224 miles diameter) had a near tangential impact with the earth.’

This had the result that the enormous amount of energy released by this impact, vaporised and crushed the surface of both bodies.

This ‘mixed debris’ was then ejected into space and remained in orbit around the earth.

Eventually, the mixture of debris combined, and voila – Hello Moon!

However, as this theory is entirely based on analysis of rocks and soil taken from a very limited area of the surface of the moon, does that mean it is at best an inaccurate representation of the entire surface of the moon?

Also, as the analysed samples have been obtained from, at the most, less than two metres below the surface, how could it be so widely accepted a theory as it has apparently become?

Because NASA says it’s true that’s why.

But…. There is one quite important question that needs to be answered by NASA, who have repeatedly refused to do so.

It’s a simple one, and based on the currently available evidence which shows that the moon, is not only considerably older than our solar system, but also predates the latest time frame which scientists estimate that the ‘Big Bang’ is supposed to have occurred….

NASA is fully aware of this, and for them to know about it, they must either:

Already have in their possession, rocks and soil which are much older than 4.6 billion years.

Or, they know this fact by some other means.

Whistle-blowers have also claimed that NASA are in possession of lunar rocks that are at least 5.3 billion years old, yet instead of discussing any other possibility, their scientists persist in promoting their ‘official’ theory – based on, by their own admission, very limited data.

And round and around it will undoubtedly go.

*NASA, who also happen to be among the most heavily financed and covert organisations in human history, have always, albeit subtly, offered plenty of clues without revealing their real purpose. One only has to do the most basic research on the names chosen for their ‘projects’. For those who know their history and Mythology, the Greek god Apollo for instance, was often linked to the origins and defence of civil order and to the founding of cities…. (or lunar outposts perhaps?). Saturn, which was adopted eventually as the name of the launcher for Project Apollo, was the Roman version of ‘Cronus’, which was associated with limitation and time. The Greeks however, considered Cronus to be the God of Agriculture – which, for some who have studied these connections in any detail, forms a tenuous, but not entirely unconnected link with the Crop Circles found in Southern England…. But that is another story altogether.*

 

41 Comments

  • David Icke Forum Regular

    Interesting article Jimmy.

    What is your view on crop circles as I must admit I would never have made the connection with crop circles, NASA and the Apollo project before? 🙂

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    • About 20 years ago,I read a lengthy investigation (in print media) into some Canadian crop circles made by a Dutch researcher.He explained that in all the circles he’d seen,the place on the stalk where each stalk of corn had bent over had all the evidence of being freeze-dried at that precise point.

      He also had a photo of a baby eaglet which had been found in such a circle.

      And that body had all the appearances of also having been freeze-dried.

      That’s all I can remember,so make of it what you will.

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  • Reblogged this on TheFlippinTruth.

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  • richard 1

    pleeeeeeeeeease don’t tell me you think we never landed on the moon !

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    • You can always attempt to furnish some definitive proof that they did Richard….

      I can offer ample that even stays within the boundaries of known physics, that would prove it highly improbable that humans have never ventured further than the Van Allen belt….

      Let alone returned to earth unharmed.

      Please, be my guest 🙂

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  • DEAR COMRADE SPIVEY.

    THIS IS A CUT ‘n PASTE FROM ONE OF YOUR VERY RECENT RANTS.

    I’D LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN EXPOSED YOURSELF AS A F**ING LYING BAS**D.

    AT NO TIME DID I GET “WARNED”.

    I WAS JUST BLOCKED.

    NO WARNINGS EITHER ON POST OR BY E-MAIL.

    SO DON’T TELL EFFING LIES. YOU TYPED:-

    “Indeed, him, his thing and “the silly old cunt (ME, OldGit) who is barred from my site after ignoring repeated requests to stop talking like a cunt”, made a proper big deal about me betraying confidences and indeed, he was adamant that everything people sent him was as safe as houses.

    IT SEEMS I UPSET ONE OF YOUR PET POSTERS – LORRAINE/RAINE1, WAS IT, WHO COULD BARELY TAKE A SH*T UNLESS SHE WAS SURE THAT SHE WAS DOING IT IN A “POLITICALLY CORRECT, MULTI-CULTURAL, NON-OFFENSIVE, NON-JUDGEMENTAL” WAY. AND YES, I DID COMMENT A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ON CERTAIN SUBJECTS, AND YOU DIDN’T LIKE THAT DID YOU?

    NO.

    NOW OF COURSE THE PLOD WHO SPENT AGES SEARCHING YOUR ROOM WERE, OF COURSE,PLANTING LISTENING BUGS.

    DO YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR THEM?

    DO YOU IN FACT KNOW JUST WHAT YOU’D BE LOOKING FOR?

    I DO. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO LOOK.

    AND IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN A LOCAL ESSEX PLOD. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WELL-TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED SPECIAL BRANCHER, ALAS I’M “PERSONA NON GRATA ” IN SPIVEYLAND, SO I CAN’T GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF WHAT I’VE LEARNED ABOUT THESE THINGS AND HOW TO FIND THEM.

    DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE LISTENING BUGS NOWADAYS THAT ARE SMALLER THAN AN ANT ?

    TRY FINDING THAT IF YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE OR HOW TO LOOK.

    SO SORRY. LOVE TO HELP YOU, BUT I DON’T LIKE BEING REFERRED TO AS A “silly old c*nt” BY A TOSSER LIKE YOU.

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  • richard 1

    re; the moon landings. i did all this on spivey. check out his most commented on articles, the one entiteled ‘ where have all the mountains gone’ but if you’d rather not , check out the link below, make particular note of the quote at the top and by who it was made.

    CLAVIUS.ORG

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    • I respect your opinions and beliefs Richard and as I regularly say, everyone gets a fair hearing on the Outlaw.

      With respect, I will not be reading anything that man writes now as it’s irreparably tainted, as he seems far too eager to manipulate facts and images etc to fit his often madcap and rambling theory’s.

      As a reference point, that site is considerably less than useless now.. to me anyway, I cannot speak for anyone else.

      I have, over the years probably read the majority of what has been published about the Apollo Project, as well as masses of unpublished data from ex-NASA employees – and not all of them are Whistleblowers.

      I try to keep an open mind about most things and think well outside any ‘normal’ box.

      However, the overwhelming mountain of evidence that has emerged since the early 1970’s, means that the ‘Official’ NASA, ie ‘Mainstream’ version is simply too much of a leap of faith to accept without question.

      For me as well as many others….

      It simply does not ‘add up’ nor does it stand up to close scrutiny – by any stretch of the imagination.

      And as for the Dr Van Allen quote you refer to?

      He also seems to be someone who likes to wear different hats to suit each occasion, as I have read more than a few quotes alleged to have been said by him, which have changed over time.

      Markedly so in some cases.

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  • OldGit

    On thing that I’ve wondered – but never felt the incentive to really dig into – is what about all those stationary satellites 22,000 miles out in space, sometimes well beyond the Van Allen belt?.

    How are they shielded from the radiation out there?

    And from the Van Allen belt itself?

    How do their electronics even manage to function?

    And the Hubble telescope?

    I don’t recall ever reading anything on that topic.

    “Since their discovery over 50 years ago, the Earth’s Van Allen radiation belts have been considered to consist of two distinct zones of trapped, highly energetic charged particles.

    Observations from NASA’s Van Allen Probes reveal an isolated third ring in the outer radiation belt.”

    NASA.GOV

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  • OldGit

    I’ve posted before about Nuttyahoos psychiatrist.There was some online debate as to whether it was true,or was satire.I now think its true, & we are all in danger:-

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  • richard 1

    ok. lets keep it polite. we will have to agree to disagree. i will post one more link. have a quick look at the mountains of information it contains. if the moon landings were a hoax, they certainly went into microscopic detail. can you answer these 2 questions. Apollo 11 took place at the height of the cold war. Russia had already sent probes to the moon, they had the ability to track any craft all the way there. don’t you think they would have let the world know if in fact the landings never happened, and remember there were 6 or 7 landings, you can’t deny that a rocket took off and a capsule landed by parachute in the pacific. what the sceptics say is that it simply spent 7 days orbiting the Earth BUT that would have been visible from Earth just as the space station is today, also it would have been tracked by amateur astronomers the world over, neither things happened.

    history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/

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    • Am I anything but polite to you Richard?

      We can of course agree to disagree on this, and other things – but I have a question for you, and it’s British based so easily researched.

      Why was the Jodrell Bank facility not given the correct coordinates by NASA to be able to accurately track Apollo 11?

      Jodrell Employees have stated on multiple occasions that they have never understood why the ‘biggest event in human history’ was not allowed to be witnessed by British astromers based at that facility.

      Many probes have been sent to the moon and beyond, I agree.

      That is where the samples came from…..

      The ‘unmanned’ probes.

      Have a good look at the Apollo 11 Lunar Lander while you are at it Richard.

      Please show me where three astronauts plus all their gear, the oxygen tanks as well as all the rock and soil samples they collected, were able to be stored….

      Also, where were the fuel tanks that needed to be large enough to hold enough fuel to not only leave the lunar surface, but bring them successfully back to earth?

      It is my understanding that Russia and the US never entered into a ‘Cold War’ as we know it Richard, they were working together and always have been, but that’s a ‘conspiracy’ isn’t it?

      And one that would be impossible to prove.

      I have never seen ‘Amateur’ film footage nor stills of the Apollo Moon Missions, only ‘official’ NASA images exist I believe Richard, so I would be very interested to see any evidence from amateur astronomers of Armstrong and Co, either going to the moon, walking on the moon surface, or even verifiable footage of their journey back.

      If the footage did not come from anywhere near NASA, I will almost certainly rethink my beliefs….

      Is that fair enough?

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  • Southern Star

    Thanks for another interesting article 🙂 ! Here’s to your being able to write more of these type of things, than responding to the endless nonsense! Here in the states especially the south you get used to crazy, I didn’t realize in your country with those lovely accents, you have “reality star redneck” too! 😱 keep on keeping on!

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  • “It is my understanding that Russia and the US never entered into a ‘Cold War’ as we know it Richard, they were working together and always have been, but that’s a ‘conspiracy’ isn’t it?”

    Again referring to all the stuff I sent you,you should have a copy of “Major Jordans Diaries” in there.

    He details how,during WW 2, he was compelled to assist the Soviets in so many ways.

    Also,before that, unknown to the American public, massive technical and scientific aid was shuffled off to Moscow.

    Many of Roosevelt’s staff were shown to be active (Jewish) communists or sympathisers,both before and during WW 2, and Senator McCarthy was spot on with ALL his accusations.

    Google “DC Dave” to get pages of such info, among other places.

    Don’t forget that the so-called “Russian Revolution” was in fact a brutal and highly organised Jewish takeover of Russia,financed by Wall Street to the tune of nearly a 100 million dollars.

    The only thing that went wrong was that Trotsky was supposed to be the new master of Russia, but Stalin out-manoeuvered him.

    But the Bankers later threw the weight behind Stalin, as long as he was prepared to destroy Hitler snd thus Germany for them.

    Those Jewish bankers really hated Germany.

    Try googling “wall Street & the Bolsheviks” & “Wall Street and Hitler”.

    (You should also have these two books as well Outlaw).

    So was there a conspiracy?

    Of course there was, but it’s only come to light with the coming of the NET.

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  • richard 1

    yes sorry i didnt mean to imply to you anything other than polite. but on the matter of the moon landings i find it fascinating that people still persist in saying they never happened. they did. as to jodrell bank see the link below. plus the article underneath, it debunks every conspiracy myth.

    DEPLETEDCRANIUM.COM

    BRAEUNIG.US

    what i came to realise is that nothing will convince moon landing deniers . i could post a link to photos which clearly show the landing sites, the tracks left by the lunar rovers and the landing modules left behind but i know they will be dismissed as fakes. the moon rocks came from the Antarctic and were somehow ‘ modified ‘. the thousands of scientists all over the world who received small pieces were either easily duped or ‘in on it ‘ at the height of the Apollo programme 500,000 people were involved, what were they all doing? i could go on but i know its pointless, people only want to hear information which confirms their deluded beliefs. sorry if thats a bit rude.

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    • Not rude at all Richard, but you must also accept that there are also some people who steadfastly believe everything they see on the mainstream news and read on the Internet.

      These people also dismiss clear evidence if it conflicts with something that they have spent their whole lives believing.

      Millions of people throughout the world are beginning to wake up and realise that almost everything they were taught in school and read in the mainstream press was not strictly how things really happened.

      Belief is a very personal thing, I for example do not believe in God in the classic sense, but I do not consider those who do so as being ‘deluded’.

      BTW, you were right that upwards of half a million people were involved in the Apollo programme, but only a very small number were party to what actually happened.

      So are you are also saying that half a million NASA employees were fully aware of every minute detail of the Apollo programme?

      From the Astronauts to the cleaners?

      In the middle of an alleged ‘Cold War’ where absolute secrecy was paramount in case the ‘enemy’ should discover the plans, there were all these people who were wandering around, fully aware and conversant with every aspect of the hideously expensive and highly classified Apollo Missions?

      Really?

      If I had the time and the inclination Richard, I could probably take apart every ‘Debunking’ theory out there, anybody could, it just depends on how persuasive my argument will be.

      Lawyers do it every day, as do politicians, as do scientists, priests, university lecturers and so on – all are able to present valid arguments which are designed to persuade people to believe something else entirely.

      I for one, refuse to be blinkered and remain blind to events that I admittedly, may not initially understand, but will always acknowledge as being entirely possible.

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  • richard 1

    as i say i;ve learnt from experience some people will never be persuaded that it wasn;t all a hoax but i will re-post my earlier link. i would like people to look at it, scroll down, click on some of the headings, there are 100s of videos, photographs and audio clips. detailed diagrams of every aspect of the Apollo missions.if you think its all a hoax you have to also think that they spent 1000s of hours producing this stuff. anyway, l wont keep on. i know what the truth is but i suppose in your view that should be i think i know what the truth is.

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    • My view is that anyone is free to believe whatever they choose Richard.

      I merely wish to share ideas, ask questions and air certain views and opinions, which are always open to discussion.

      There is no need to post the same link twice though, as a strong argument should be able to stand on it’s own merits, without being forced on anyone.

      May I remind you that many people/organisations have also spent billions and even decades in time, on both the construction and the continuation of any number of ‘events’ that have been written into the history books, yet years later, have been proved without doubt, to have been a myth.

      A deception on a grand scale is neither impossible, nor is it an uncommon occurrence to the writers of history.

      All you have provided is some links Richard, and if you have any internet savvy, you should be only too aware, that for every site which publishes valid and genuine information, there are many more that publish obvious ‘disinformation’.

      I always check my sources, many times, and cross-reference them whenever possible.

      I also do not base any opinion on what Google alone provides either.

      The link you provided is a NASA subsidiary, so hardly independent, so therefore I shall have to discount it’s contents due to it’s obvious bias….

      I did ask you to provide evidence, that is unrelated to NASA, you have failed to do that…..

      Twice now, so this is now going around in circles.

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  • AND THE FIRST COMMENT GETS IT :-
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    The government knows how to create fear and they do it regularly only now we are catching the frauds and hoaxes within the time to make a hard boiled egg.

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  • richard 1

    ok final post. i don’t really understand how you expect anyone other than Nasa to have evidence that would convince you when the very strong evidence from Nasa fails to convince you. there are many many independant websites devoted to debunking hoax myths. try clavious .org.. a very good one is apollohoax.net. they actively encourage hoax believers to post on their site, they are all forensically dismantled and most leave with their tail between their legs . but i appreciate your politeness. good luck.

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  • OldGit

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    I know how, and it is called a SCAPEGOAT COVER STORY.

    IMPORTANT DETAIL THAT CLINCHES IT: Only ONE electrician is being blamed for this. This means that whatever breaker is being blamed for this could have been handled by one person.
    This means it weighed 50 pounds or less.

    ANY CIRCUIT BREAKER THAT WOULD RUN EVEN A SMALL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, LET ALONE A TRAIN, WEIGHS OVER 500 POUNDS MINIMUM AND TAKES A CRANE AND 10 PEOPLE TO INSTALL. The fact that only ONE man was blamed means it was a tiny tiny local breaker, not even large enough to do more than switch lights and power outlets, and that alone proves the entire electrician story FALSE. A trip out of the magnitude that would shut a whole command and control center down would be so huge people would be dead if their negligence caused it, there would be too much heat from sparks flying with the people who caused it right by it GETTING FRIED.

    If one man is getting blamed for this as an OOPS it is an impossible scenario, simple electrical facts prove he was not even working on the same power system that runs the train
    because ALL of that hardware is too big for one guy to handle during installation. When when it comes to installation, huge hardware is always a multiple man job, IF HE WAS WORKING ALONE TO TAKE THE BLAME ALONE AS THE STORY GOES, HE WAS DOING LIGHTS. To sum it up, There was never a tripped breaker, the Skytrain outage was brought to you by David in Dimona.

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  • “Tell me the real truth” – words uttered by my four year old niece, many years ago.
    See how soon a new life latches onto how elusive truth is. The reality is this, truth is not just elusive it is damn near impossible to find. Extremely fertile ground for those who wish to see plots and deceit everywhere.
    Get on with your lives, boys and girls, your truth is no more valid than the other guy’s truth; and neither of you will prove yourself the true possessor of truth.

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    • That’s me told off then 🙂

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    • calla

      Sorry David but you’re wrong. There is only ONE truth. They either landed on the moon or they didn’t. ONE truth. A million perceptions and interpretations.

      Reply
      • I prefer Outlaw’s reply. He has the insight, and you do not. Of course man landed on the moon or didn’t land on the moon; pray tell me who exactly can provide the absolute answer?

        In the absence of an absolute answer, there is room for rogues and scoundrels, and the total effing asshole Chris Spivey to provide an answer.

        Guys and gals, what does it matter?

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        • It makes for an interesting discussion if nothing else David, and like you say, we may never discover a definitive answer.

          At least one that will please everyone anyway 🙂

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        • calla

          You said there is no ”truth.”.

          Of course there is! It’s irrelevant whether I, or you for that matter , choose to disbelieve it or not .

          The truth stands on its own .

          The ‘proof’ of whether a certain event took place is always obtainable given the will , the freedom and the diligence and integrity of the investigator.

          Of course freedom of information is one of the many stumbling blocks put in the way of the search for the ‘truth.’

          I grant that when you venture into the world of metaphysics and not straightforward ‘facts’ then that’s a whole different ball game.

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  • Jane

    Another fan, he will be pleased 😉

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    • calla

      Jane, I’m nobody’s fan. I’m my own person . I like this site because Jimmy appears erudite and articulate. I read many other sites and make up my own mind as I’m sure you do.

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      • I think she may have been referring to the comment about a certain Tattooist who has featured on here of late Calla. 🙂

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      • Jane

        Yes Calla, as J said, my comment in no way referred to you, it just appeared under yours, as that is the order in which it was placed by the natural processes of this website 🙂 I agree with what you have said. Didn’t much like the fact that your view was being dismissed, as it seemed to be a very logical, rational, level headed statement to me & is quite right, there IS always an ultimate truth, but as you say, the blocks put in the way often make it difficult to get to that ultimate truth. 🙂

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  • IT SEEMS THAT WHATS BEEN REPORTED IN THE MSM ABOUT THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG,SO TO SPEAK

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    CAMERON’S EFFORTS TO SHUT DOWN TRUTH:-

    INVESTMENTWATCHBLOG.COM

    FOR THOSE WHO REMEMBER THE POSTS I DID ON THE ATTEMPT TO USE THE FERGUSON,MISSOURI KILLING OF MICHAEL BROWN TO STIR UP A CAUSE FOR MARTIAL LAW,BUT FAILED:-

    FRONTPAGEMAG.COM

    I CAN’T RECALL IF YOU’VE DONE A POST ABOUT THIS,BUT NOW THEY HAVE THE RESULTS OF D.N.A.TESTING:-

    ASHEEPNOMORE.NET

    FUKUSHIMA – WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE?.:-

    (TRY TO IGNORE THE HOLY STUFF):-

    California women developing brain aneurysms-3 DEAD IN LAST 2 MONTHS ONE PARALYZED

    STEVEQUAYLE.COM

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  • rainbowsophie

    Truth seems to be a very nebulous and amorphous concept, there is only one truth, and that is what is borne out of ‘what actually (from the concept of a physical reality) happened’. Everything else surely is conjecture ! The ONLY way one can know the truth is by physically experiencing such, and even that is open to interpretation. Therefore truth – and reality – is perceived by different people in different ways. You may have been present in Nasa’s HQ at the moment of the Lunar ‘Landings’ and perceive it very differently to the people who actually ‘landed’. I never cease to be amazed at the ability of and level to, that which the human brain can be manipulated ! Everything we see and experience can – to a certain degree – be manipulated. Film a witnessed event – then play it back to the participants, and each one will view and remember it in a different way. If you have enough time, money and motive NOTHING is beyond fabrication. All that remains is the degree to which people are in denial.

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  • calla

    ”…………………. All that remains is the degree to which people are in denial ”…………………………AND the TRUTH (remains) surely?

    Every personal experience is subjective . We are always doomed to think with our own brains which are ‘contaminated’ by our own experiences and emotions.

    Manipulating these is the lot of the conspiracy theorists. I’ve come to the conclusion that certain sites…………..in particular Spivey’s ………….
    are inadvertently or intentionally simply class war vehicles.

    The working classes, the benefit ‘scroungers’*, the misunderstood immigrants are all heroes whilst the toffee nosed public schoolboys, government employees and aristos are all evil.

    Surely this is far too simplistic? Many of our problems arise from political policies but the basic rich/poor good/bad argument that Spivey promulgates is just lazy thought.

    It appeals to many of his followers ……………..he even ‘talks down’ to them in profane language which for some unfathomable reason is visualised as being cool and revolutionary. ……………but in truth the real ‘war’ is far more complicated than that.
    * whatever that’s supposed to mean.

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    • It is always worth remembering that organisations like ‘Class War’ were infiltrated and manipulated from the onset by the security services Calla.

      Like the Anarchist Movement, the SWP and any others that were perceived as a real threat.

      Even some of the more powerful Unions are being subtly and covertly ‘steered’ from within their own ranks.

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  • Jane

    Taking out all the human factor, different opinions, different recounts & recall there still remains the ultimate truth.
    Hmmm I am getting what you mean exceptionally vividly at the moment Mr J. 😉 The internet has only opened up an extra avenue to the infiltrators, even easier than planting ‘snouts’ into Anarchist Groups these days. 🙂

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  • The term”class war” was an invention of the Jewish bankers in about the late 1700’s to early 1800’s.

    It was intended to bring about divisions in an otherwise racially and culturally homogenous society.

    (Nowadays,this is accomplished by large scale immigration of non-white and non-Christian peoples into formerly White Christian countries, with the accompanying anti-discrimination and “hate crime” laws being put into place – also a Jewish invention).

    E.G. At one time the so-called “public schools” were truly open to any scholar who could pass the entrance exam and pay the fees.

    All over Britain, there were sums of money from wills, earnings from estates, etc, which were intended to pay the fees of “poor scholars” to the public schools.

    Such pupils would have had an equal chance with the sons of the landed gentry and aristocracy, and would, of course, as is normal in human interactions, have made many valuable contacts which would have helped them “up the ladder”, so to speak.

    Then, some time in the mid 1800’s, a new headmaster of, I believe, Rugby school, began excluding “poor scholars” in favour of the sons of the well-to-do.

    Soon, Parliament passed a law which gathered up all the small charities for “poor scholars”, closed them down, and distributed the yearly monies between just 6 now very private and exclusive schools.

    That headmasters name was Thomas Arnold.

    Was he a Jew?

    I don’t know, but the most notorious traitor of the American revolution, Benedict Arnold, certainly was.

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  • OMG! Have you seen the latest drivel from Queen Chav? Vomit inducing!

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  • Elyas

    Do you honestly believe they have gone to the moon?

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