SUMMING IT UP ….

I do not ordinarily comment here on any ongoing trial for obvious reasons, but in this particular case I will make an exception, as the following extracts are part of a larger article and are already in the public domain after being reported on and published in the North Wales Daily Post earlier today.

The extracts I have selected and would like to focus on, were presented during the trial of ex-North Wales Police Chief Gordon Anglesea, at Mold Crown Court, by the defending barrister in her summing up:

‘Defending barrister Tania Griffiths QC said that those who told “whopping great lies” knew how to tell them and branded the allegations against her client “ arrant nonsense”.

She warned of the danger of copy cat allegations by people who wanted compensation by making false allegations.

“Absolutely it is an Oscar winning performance and you don’t need me to tell you that”‘.

And….

The jury had been treated over the last six weeks to a smoke screen, she said.

She warned of the danger of contamination of evidence and said that a Bryn Alyn survivor’s web site, which closed down before the trial, had spoke about “all singing from the same hymn sheet” and “sticking together.”

There was talk of compensation, the top 16 abusers named by a number of people, and “similar fact evidence which got John Allen convicted last time”.

There was a risk of contamination at what she called “an Aladdin’s Cave” where people could pick up “a tailor made allegation.”

Which, as anyone who has been following the twists and turns of the long-running story of alleged child abuse in and around North Wales are only too aware of, demonstrate perfectly the difficulties faced by anyone trying to get to the truth of what really happened.

Especially when the events that manage to reach the courts, to even the casual observer …. appear to have been engineered and effectively steered by disgruntled ex-residents, their advocates and any number of faceless ‘Social Justice Warriors’ on the Internet.

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  1. The particular owner of the blog mentioned being a good friend of a certain FAILED Lib Dem whose false claims were dismissed by the Police and who’s compo claim attempts FAILED too.

    A FAILED Lib Dem whose ex best buddy and co writer of his blog was the fraudster Chris Fay.

    These people crop up in every corner of this whole sorry mess.

    How great it would be if someone in authority started seeing the whole picture and how all these people link in one big gang.

    Then I might have faith that this thing would actually end one day.

    It’s like a bush fire. It’s all very well dousing odd patches of flames, but if you don’t damp them all down it just spreads.

    1. I believe we are speaking of a certain lavatory here are we not?.

      1. Among a number of others ….

        1. 60 plus at my last count, all linked all attacking survivors of child abuse over 4 years. And yet it’s taken this long to get anyone to do anything about it &whilst that’s good, cherry picking a few to prosecute will not end this thing.

          As I’m sure people are noticing, despite court cases ongoing, proxy intimidation by friends of is still in full swing. I only hope that the Legals & Police are watching this happen in real time.
          Because a few ‘friends of’ could really do with arresting for continuing to attempt to intimidate and pervert the course of justice ‘on behalf of’. Ironically, (but predictably,) whilst threatening and issuing orders for others not to do what they themselves are doing. Pretty standard from these particular creatures as we know only too well.

      2. The Bryn Alyn blog mentioned in court belonged to another fake CSA compo seeker OG. She gave her duff evidence to the Police and said that if her claims of abuse were not accepted, she would tell the Police about some girl who was buried under the school/kids home for another attempt to get compo. Fortunately the Police aren’t that stupid and her attempts didn’t get past the Polices bullshit radar.

        But she’s another good example of how the FAILED Lib Dem only backs fraudulent CSA survivors and attacks and threatens (IN WRITING) genuine ones.

        Looks like the fake claimers have lead this inquiry by the nose again. Lots of time and money wasted and so far it’s all been about inquiries into the various hand picked entities that have been sacked or quit. I can’t watch the nitty gritty of it, the shambles it has become is too depressing.

        Another good way of siphoning money off to their mates though I suppose.

        Bit like G4s.

        That’s what it feels like.

  2. Met a chap yesterday who out of the blue said that he had ‘come back’ to the town after living there as a 12 yr old child in a ‘children’s home’ just outside. He asked if it was still open ? I asked where he was talking about and he said Dol Rhydd, mentioned a couple of names ….. !

    Looked like he had had a hard life poor chap.

    Said that he had been only sent there from his home in Manchester because he was always skipping school. My heart went out to him. These are the people I really feel for, they are not after ‘compo’ (although there are a few in the area who got lots out of Waterhouse). He was just trying to make sense of a very sad and difficult childhood. 🙁

    1. Wasn’t Dol Rhydd one of Paul Hett’s places?

  3. So what was on that Bryn Alyn survivors web site could affect the verdict? Holy Shit man!

    1. Yes you can thank the FAILED Lib Dem and his fake survivor mate Kaz for that Another Survivor. In fact there are lots to thank FAILED Lib Dem & his team of story telling attack rats for.

      I’m only glad I’m not the kid of any of these scum bags, because a legacy of paedo protecting, imagine having to explain that to your own kid. Lets hope words are all the kids get to suffer.

  4. I am so bloody lucky to say that I have never been a victim of child abuse. I had a lovely upbringing and for that I am eternally grateful – to say the same thing about my adult years is another matter!!!

    However whatever life throws at me, how desperate I am, I would NEVER in my wildest dream or stupendous ideas EVER think in one slightest moment to ‘pretend’ to be a victim of child abuse. What actually goes on in the minds of these people?

    Are they actually that desperate for a bit of the limelight or is it just £ signs that they see?

    Completely different I know but my husband has an ongoing claim for an accident he was in and the other side has suddenly have three witnesses. Now these witnesses know full well that they were not there, certainly not when the accident happened so they are willing to swear on oath in court whilst knowing they are lying???

    What is it with these people.

    Have they not got any pride? Any morals?

    It makes me sick to my teeth and I can only hope that karma comes along and bites every single one of these disgusting forms of life right in the arse and sinks it teeth right in.

    Bastards.

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  9. Oh dear. Damian Convex, seems to be as clear as perspex now. No hiding place for washed up Brighton DJ’s it would seem.

    Never mind, he always has FAILED LIB DEM Henry to run to.

    Although ‘Baz’ trying to hide behind something with the physique of a broom handle, I don’t fancy his chances much. 😀

  10. Me again. I hear we are falsely being linked to Graham Wilmer now by the goon squad who have clearly been sucking up rubbish from the blubbing junkie.

    Nothing could be further from the truth, unfortunately for them, I have already had cause to prove that completely false some months ago, and everyone needs to know that attempts are being made to falsely link us & another to Wilmer and his ‘friends’ – and it will be readily made available to the Police should the ‘1 other’ need to kick that false affiliation attempt into touch.

    And head moderator continues to falsely accuse us of leaving comments on that sad excuse for a blog.

    I guess things must be getting really desperate for him to have to keep on trying to lie so badly.

    What a very strange little man he is.

    You’d think if you’d been on bail the best part of the year, & your boss was in the midst of a trial, plus a friend, you’d not be so dumb as to carry on a loonicidal vendetta.

    Some people just really are born stupid though I guess.

    Before I forget AGAIN, well done to Mike if he’s looking in. Seems you well and truly pinned the tail on that particular donkey.

    Makes me feel better to have the confirmation of the face behind the obsession. Thanks : )

    1. Haha, thank you Jane.

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