NOT A BALL ….

I have always worked to the adage that the shortest distance between any two given points, is a straight line …. And the simplest explanation is very often the closest to the truth.

So with that uppermost in my mind, whenever I approach a problem or need to find the answers to a question, I tend to look for the most obvious solution which can be reached using the most direct route.

In the scientific world, however, the rule of thumb is to confuse and befuddle the non-scientific minded out there, by creating as much white noise and presenting as much gobbledygook as possible.

Fortunately, most people’s minds (and senses) do not work that way, and they can see, hear, smell, taste and touch anything that is presented to them in a simple, straightforward and honest manner with very little difficulty.

Unfortunately, they way that the world has been presented to them, and almost everything that is contained therein, is anything but simple, or straightforward and has certainly not been shown to them with anything approaching honesty.

The mainstream (controlled) history writers, the tame scientists, the mathematicians, the theologians and the established order who hold sway over them, have over many centuries, effectively hoodwinked the greater majority of humankind into believing without question, many things which are simply untrue.

One of those things is the shape of the plane upon which all of humankind exists, and the established order have gone to unimaginable lengths in order to indoctrinate the greater majority of people into believing without question, that the Earth is a Ball.

Any deviation from a steadfast belief in the Ball earth is a risky undertaking, however, and means venturing along a path littered with what can seem at times, insurmountable obstacles …. as many who have spoken publicly will already know what happens as the vicious backlash is well documented and can be observed daily on every digital media (and mainstream) platform there is.

So how would one go about approaching the subject of the Earth not being a ball to the average person?

There is one way, and it’s also the simplest, the most straightforward and undoubtably the most honest, as it demonstrates to people how they can utilise their own natural instincts and common sense, to see something that has been right in front of them all the time, and should have been all too obvious.

Thankfully, IFERS Member Del from Scotland has nailed it and demonstrates the technique perfectly in the video below, and although personally I do not believe 100% that the Earth is flat – I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that it’s certainly NOT A BALL.

Further Reading:

FLAT OUT DENIAL

INTERNATIONAL FLAT EARTH RESEARCH SOCIETY

BETTER AND FLATTER EARTHS

NASA

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  1. Me and my brother-in-law have decided that we have to be able to counter the challenge “Do you really know that or is it just what you have been told?”

    Next time he goes on holiday we are going to try to copy what Eratosthenes did around 240 BC.

    Measure the shadow from vertical posts of known height at local noon. Calculate the angle of the Sun at both points, then, with a simple bit of trigonometry (IF the Earth is a globe), we should get a rough estimate of it’s diameter.

    Or very red faces.

    I’ll let you know how it goes…

    1. Current mainstream belief is that the Earth has a circumference of approximately 26,000 miles ….

      I look forward to hearing the result of your experiment Phil.

  2. Lord Voldemorts Evil Twin

    Jimmy, I must be honest when I say I have never liked you. Now I fucking hate you! I hate you because when I woke up this morning I had no reason to believe that the earth was anything but a ball, and now I am going to have to question everything. So thanks again for screwing up my life mate

    1. You’re welcome ….

  3. One of the flatty arguments is NASA’s composite photos of Earth. This is an easy one to explain.
    The mean diameter of Earth is just under 8,000 miles. The average orbital height of the ISS is about 250 miles ie 1/32nd of said diameter. Now, find yourself a beach ball of 32″ diameter then hold a pencil with it’s sharpened point 1″ from the surface of the ball.
    Congratulations! You now have a scale model of the ISS in Eart orbit!
    It is readily obvious how little of the ball can be seen simply by using a ruler from the pencil point (the ISS) to it’s maximum line-of-sight contact with the ball (Earth).
    I can’t be arsed to calculate the diameter of the shallow cone of view this produces but it is a tiny fraction of the globe’s surface.

    1. Sorry Phil, that does not explain WHY NASA’s pictures of the Earth from space are ‘composite’ (IE:computer enhanced/generated) images by their own admission.

      The ‘Earth Rise’ image allegedly taken by the Apollo missions is one notable example.

      Nothing to do with the ISS as it had not even been built then.

      You need to make clear the reasons why there is not a single untouched image of Earth from space, in order to explain just that one anomaly (of many).

      1. Admin. Those from the ISS have to be composite because the ‘cone’ of view is so small. The enhanced/generated bit is the digital ‘stitching’ together of the many separate images and the re-shaping of those away from the centre of the full image being built-up.
        Think about it this way. The ISS passes over Earth at a constant height taking the same sized square/rectagular images one after another. After a fair number of orbits it will have hundreds of these images that, if laid out flat and joined together, would form a large square 2 dimensional image of the whole surface of the 3 dimensional planet.
        To make that 2d image 3d, any country for example, can be chosen as the centre but all images radiating out from that point MUST be made to appear more distant and also ’tilted’ progressively further as they near the edge of the globe. Those approaching the ‘edge’ of the globe would, in fact, be edge-on.
        I dunno about ‘Earth rise’ to be honest. I’ve only ever looked at it as a wonderful image!

        1. Again Phil, any images taken from the ISS, regardless of whether they are stitched together to make a complete image, would be relevant only if the footage/data came from an actual space station.

          There is more than enough evidence been made available, and which raises a number of questions as to the ISS’s existence; at least how it has been presented by NASA and the mass media.

          Which is a whole new topic of discussion would you agree?

          Everything should be questioned and the antics of the world’s obscenely expensive Space Agencies are not exempt from criticism and close scrutiny by any means.

          1. Admin.
            Bugger! Ya got me there…

            I agree that (like the ‘charity’ industry) there needs to be much scrutiny of the space industry.

            This is fact.

            On most clear nights, it is possible to see (with the naked eye) an object crossing the sky. It’s path varies so it is either on a variable path or Earth is moving under it.

            Whether or not it is a space station is debatable.

            The amount of light it reflects suggests that it is large object in low earth orbit.

            Aircraft do not reflect the sunlight at night. Unlike most aircraft, it has no contrail and it cannot be seen through a decent pair of binoculars during the day.

            Would it be possible to load-up something like an SR-71 Blackbird with an array of high powered lamps to simulate the ‘ISS’? The logistics needed for faking it would be interesting…

            Whatever it is, there are sites that track it’s progress. They will also give info on when it’s next due over your location.
            On a clear night, having obtained the time of it’s next pass, you can step outside and see the object.

            With your laptop in-hand, you can see on-screen, what it purports to see. The image itself is easily verifiable for accuracy by the location of cities.

            Is it all faked?

            It certainly could be.

            My feelings are that there is definitely an object orbiting a globular Earth. It is filming and transmitting live imagery.

            Is it a space station?

            I think so but I am not certain.

            Have a look and see what you think.

            N2YO

            USTREAM.TV

  4. The Earth is NOT a ball.It is an Oblate Spheroid.I.E.,fatter at the Equator than at the Poles.(But not by very much).
    IF the Earth IS’NT a ball,then why does every other observable planetary body show up as a ball of some kind?.
    Are we in some way unique?.I think not.
    & by the way,JimStone warned some time ago.that the “Flat Earth” nonsense was being used to discredit websites that posted this garbage.

    1. Jim Stone also made a big deal out of a photograph he claimed was taken aboard the missing airliner MH117 as I recall.

      Whatever became of that I wonder, as he made a right song and dance about it at the time as I recall?

      Wasn’t it shown to be a complete fake?

      I don’t recall saying the Earth was ‘flat’ either, I made the claim that it was ‘Not a Ball!’

      1. FIRSTLY,THE FLIGHT JIMSTONE REFERRED TO WAS MH 371,A MALAYSIAN FLIGHT.JIMSTONE TRACED IT TO DIEGO GARCIA BASED ON THE EVIDENCE OF THE METADATA OF THE PHOTO WHICH WAS SENT TO 4CHAN.BY A COMPUTER EXPERT,WHO “HID HIS CELLPHONE IN HIS BUTT”,THE ONLY EASY SITE TO SEND IT WITHOUT IT GETTING CAUGHT UP IN “MODERATOR” CRAP.
        MH 117 WAS THE PLANE SHOT DOWN BY THE UKRAINIANS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IT WAS PUTIN’S FLIGHT.
        PLEASE J.J.,TRY TO KEEP UP & STOP WASTING YOUR SITE & MY PRECIOUS ONE-FINGER TYPING TIME ON THIS FLAT EARTH CRAP.
        OH,& HIS REASON WAS BECAUSE MH 371 CARRIED A GREAT NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS OF AN UN-HACKABLE – BY THE U.S.-
        C.P.U.

        1. Two things OG. Firstly, did any of the MH317 (sorry) claims made by Jim Stone ever develop into anything? Did any evidence emerge to substantiate the claim as it all seemed to sink without trace as I recall.

          4Chan OG? Give me a break …. That’s the home of some of the most disturbed, deluded, twisted and toxic creatures that ever crawled onto the www. It spawned ‘RIP trolling’, which targeted the memorial pages and the family and friends of deceased children for Crissakes!

          And secondly, if you want to take over the day-to-day running of the Outlaw, source, compose and publish the articles, fend off the trolls and assorted nutters this site attracts on an hourly basis, and pay the hosting fees and maintain the domain name etc etc; – then you get to say what is published or not published here, when it is published, and of course, make the final decision over the subject matter.

          While I very much appreciate your comments over the years OG, I do not take kindly to being told to ‘Keep Up’ and to ‘stop wasting my site’ so I would appreciate it, if you showed the same respect to me as you are shown.

          It is only out of respect to the valuable input you have contributed over the life of this site, and your advancing years, and our personal offsite exchanges that I have not, and will not tear you a new one my friend.

          Lighten up mate, nobody can be correct 100% of the time …. Despite what they may claim

          1. ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU ABOUT 4CHAN.A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE WAS A PRO-TRUMP RALLY IN STH CALIFORNIA.ONE OF THE PRO-TRUMPERS WAS HIT BY AN “ANTIFA” WITH A BICYCYCLE LOCK & INJURED.
            4CHAN INVESTIGATED & EVENTUALLY NAMED THE MASKED ANTIFA ATTACKER.HE IS NOW FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES.
            I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU THE DETAILS OF THEIR ONLINE INVESTIGATION,BUT,AS YOU KNOW,MY TYPING ABILITIES ARE LIMITED.
            4CHAN CALLS THIS “WEAPONISED AUTISM”.

        2. Truckloads of paid Shills have been drafted in to make FE look like a complete crock Of crap. That should worry you

          1. I have been wondering about that for nearly two years. Why the massive trolling if it’s all nonsense? Christ knows, if it’s not some government agency, is it just “organic”? Loads of individual people just taking the piss?

          2. I was saying the very same thing to someone earlier today.

            It’s very obvious that certain popular Youtubers/Truthers – some having disappeared claiming they have been given terminal ‘strikes’ by Youtube – have been sent in to back Flat Earth, so that when they are outed as ‘shills’ their little supporters/team mates can then claim Flat Earth must be a ‘psyop’ & everyone who believes the Flat Earth theory must therefore be a ‘shill’.

            Strange reasoning, when it has become obvious it’s the usual tactic they seem to use with most other subjects TPTB want discrediting.

            Some of these supporters don’t seem to have a problem at all with their shill friends claims about the earth being flat, yet they do have a problem with certain other people claiming the same.

            It is also obvious that as 1 drops out, another is already in place to take over. Often they pop up claiming to be outing shills, whilst praising & supporting good friends of the very same shills, friends who have been very supportive and complimentary about the shills their new mate is outing.

          3. Apologies for adding a Youtube clip, but for illustration purposes this clip kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

            1/ It’s a clip made by 1 of the alleged ‘Shill Truthers’ who claims to have been kicked off Youtube several times – previously too.

            2/ He seems to be claiming NASA are being economical with the truth. I always find the comments on these things interesting too, even if some of them are All Greek to me. 😀

            YOUTUBE

    2. Jim Stone Freelance? Wasn’t that the mush who ‘Wired’ called a ‘Crackpot’ because he blamed Israel (using 9000 words) for using a nuke to trigger the Tsunami that hit Japan?

      LINK

    3. The ‘Oblate Spheroid’ Bollocks was started by Neil DeGrasse Tyson, who is to honest scientific observation what Rosemary West was to child rearing OG.

      He’s on NASA’s payroll

      1. ACTUALLY, NO J.J. i LEARNED THAT DESCRIPTION OVER 60 YEARS AGO BACK WHEN BRITISH SCHOOLS STILL HAD GEOGRAPHY LESSONS.

        NEVER FORGOTTEN IT!.

        1. It’s still bollocks though OG

    4. OG
      It’s the moon what done it…
      But, for the purposes of this discussion, it’s simpler to consider the Earth a globe, hence the term ‘mean diameter’.

      1. As I do not consider the Earth to be a globe Phil, I cannot endorse that description.

        But you, and others, are of course free to describe it as whatever you want.

        1. What makes you believe the Earth is not a globe?

          1. Gut feeling, common sense, logic?

            All of the above, who knows?

            All I really know is that the more I look at things with a completely open mind which is unburdened by everything that I have been taught to believe, the clearer things become Mike.

            We are taught that the Earth is a ball spinning through empty space at 6000mph, while enclosed within a solar system that is travelling ever outwards at 66,000 mph – but we cannot feel a thing; while all the time being able to view constellations in the night sky from any position on earth which have never changed their position in thousands of years – just makes no sense to me at all.

          2. Btw, I do have a problem with the thought of us spinning endlessly through space on a lump of rock. I don’t know why but it seems ridiculous to me as well. Apparently we are moving towards something they call ” The great attractor”. Don’t ask what the hell that is because no one knows lol.

          3. The ‘Great Cash Generator’ more like

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  6. I’ve been aware of “Del” for some time now as I have been following this flat earth “resurgence” and watching all the arguments, bloody hell it gets very heated at times. One of Del`s main themes is “water” and how it doesn’t bend, therefore it cannot bend around a globe, and water always finds its own level.
    Another interesting guy is Dan Pratt who I get the impression is too street wise and savvy to believe in this stuff but nevertheless “appears” to.

  7. I know that “flat earthers” believe that we can’t be living on a spinning ball because all the water would fly off. Space doesn’t exist. Our atmosphere would need a solid wall like structure to contain it, and NASA is some evil satanic freemasonic organization, also the American believers tend to be very religious (Christian).

    1. There are many, many reasons why ‘Flat Earthers’ believe that we do not live on a spinning ball, bodies of water impossibly adhering to a spinning object is only one.

      Where has it been stated that ‘our atmosphere needs a solid wall like structure to contain it?’, admittedly there is a tendency to lean towards the belief among FE’s that a ‘Firmament’ exists, and under which, the Earth resides.

      NASA, as well as mainstream science, demands that you believe without question that there is nothing (apart from the unproven theory that it’s gravity alone) keeping everything stuck to the ball, including the atmosphere – which is an even bigger leap of faith in my opinion.

      1. I should have used the word “barrier” instead of “wall”. Del says there has to be a solid “divide” between two pressure systems.

        1. Makes sense, and as space is alleged to be a vacuum, it must be contained in something as must the Earth in order to be separate from the vacuum.

          Have any experiments where a vacuum state can exist next to earth’s atmosphere with nothing to keep them apart ever been undertaken?

          It would be interesting to see the results.

          1. Another thing, I think NASA say that space is not a true vacuum, whatever that means lol.

          2. NASA are like Christian fundamentalists that predict the end of the world every few years.

            When the date passes and they are shown to be wrong, they then claim that they have been ‘enlightened’ and move the date forward – and the countdown begins again 😉

      2. Admin, apparently it’s all a matter of “scale” the “experts” say the Earth is so massive that the amount of water and the depth of the oceans, although seemingly enormous (to us) is in reality no more than a mere “film” of water on the surface of the planet. I find it all mind boggling but very thought provoking.
        The flat earthers also do not believe in gravity, they say it’s density not gravity that forces objects to fall downwards.

        1. As you have no doubt worked out by now Mike, even though I do not always agree with some of the comments that are posted here, they will always get a fair hearing.

          And the commenter can also rest assured in the knowledge that they will always be treated with respect and not attacked or ridiculed for expressing a different opinion.

          1. Yes I know that, fair play.

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    1. Once Again, when did I say that the ‘Earth Was Flat?’.

      My position, and one that will continue until unsurmountable evidence emerges which will make me rethink that position …. is that the earth is ‘Not A Ball’.

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  10. They believe it’s a ball….I think it is flat…Look into curvature doesn’t add up…Water always finds its level…The horizon follows you up…The sun is 93 million miles away???.Hanging on to all that water….Can we have a picture of the water curve???…Nazi NASA speak with forked tongue…Good stuff…. Antarctica is where it’s at……Wait till they find out we are living on the shoulders of Giants….

    1. Most folk will not even entertain the notion that we may not be living in a ball, so adding anything else to the mix is unthinkable 😉

  11. Yes, our old friend cognitive dissonance…. One more for you.. There was a news (lol) article about the longest sniper kill recently…. They take the curvature of the earth into account apparently…. Load of ballocks… Up is up, down is down, it’s simply aiming off, nothing to do with curvature…. Most can’t see the engineered sky so we stay in the status quo.. Cheers outlaw. Thule islands worth an article the Antarctic etc…

    1. I shall see what I can do 😉

      EDIT: There is this from 2013 already on the site

      THULE

  12. The thing I don’t get is what the benefit of hiding ‘flat Earth’ would be. I don’t see why ‘they’ would need to create such an elaborate hoax – the globe Earth – to hide it from us. Yes, the space agencies get a lot of our money but so do many others without anywhere near such complicated scams. Plain old tax on everything for starters, insurance for everything, simply overpricing goods and services and paying piss-poor wages…
    Beats me.

    1. The simple answer is that it’s to promote ‘Darwinism’ and ‘The Big Bang Theory’ both of which are a crock, and to kill ‘God’ and bury all the evidence of humanity being the creation of an Intelligent Design.

      1. Hi Admin.
        Then, of course, there is another possibility…

        YOUTUBE

        1. The possibilities are endless Phil …. and call me Jimmy. admin seems very formal

          1. Jimmy.
            Thank you.

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